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Re: [anti-spam-wg] Non-cooperation of RIPE ISP in investigating report of email abuse (spam)

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  • From: "Jeffrey Race" jrace@localhost
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:26:04 -0500
  • Priority: Normal

It's all been written down long ago.   See

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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:12:26 -0500 (EST), der Mouse wrote:

>> That aside, however, currently there is no policy or procedures for
>> RIPE to follow up on incorrect contact information in the database.
>> [...]
>> In addition while RIPE has produced a number of documents [...]
>> neither the NCC nor this WG are empowered to act to stop an ISP or
>> their customers from [emitting abuse].
>And there you have in a nutshell the reason why the net is so
>abuse-ridden - RIPE should hever have had even so much as one address
>assigned for them to delegate as long as either of those is true.
>Authority without responsibility.  Bad news wherever it's found.
>RIPE's authority needs to be revoked (their allocations yanked) until
>they accept responsibility concomitant with it.  Of course, that won't
>happen - and, as a result, we'll see abuse from RIPE space continue to
>> So, in short, we are not the right people to whom to report this
>> issue.
>You are *exactly* the right people to report it to.  That you are
>determined to wash your hands of the responsibility that goes with your
>authority is in large part why RIPE space is so abuse-ridden; that
>ICANN and the IANA are letting you get away with it is why it has
>continued that way for so long (and, because they do the same nothing
>with other RIRs, why the rest of the world has similar problems).
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