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Re: [anti-spam-wg] Non-cooperation of RIPE ISP in investigating report of email abuse (spam)

  • From: der Mouse mouse@localhost
  • Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:12:26 -0500 (EST)

> That aside, however, currently there is no policy or procedures for
> RIPE to follow up on incorrect contact information in the database.
> [...]
> In addition while RIPE has produced a number of documents [...]
> neither the NCC nor this WG are empowered to act to stop an ISP or
> their customers from [emitting abuse].

And there you have in a nutshell the reason why the net is so
abuse-ridden - RIPE should hever have had even so much as one address
assigned for them to delegate as long as either of those is true.

Authority without responsibility.  Bad news wherever it's found.

RIPE's authority needs to be revoked (their allocations yanked) until
they accept responsibility concomitant with it.  Of course, that won't
happen - and, as a result, we'll see abuse from RIPE space continue to

> So, in short, we are not the right people to whom to report this
> issue.

You are *exactly* the right people to report it to.  That you are
determined to wash your hands of the responsibility that goes with your
authority is in large part why RIPE space is so abuse-ridden; that
ICANN and the IANA are letting you get away with it is why it has
continued that way for so long (and, because they do the same nothing
with other RIRs, why the rest of the world has similar problems).

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