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[anti-spam-wg] Fwd: Re: Re: NCC#2007083003 Fwd: DELIVERY FAILURE:

  • To: apwg-chairs@localhost, address-policy-wg@localhost, anti-spam-wg@localhost, woeber@localhost
  • From: BabyMatthew253 babymattb253@localhost
  • Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:54:48 -0700 (PDT)
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To whoever may read these:

I Matthew Brown, would like to request that there be some sort of action, to allow the ripe database managers to contact ISP(s) when someone reports incorrect or outdated information.  This would be very helpful in the process of fighting spam and abuse, and when you rely on the whois servers around the world to get the correct email address(es) so you may forward the abuse/spam to the correct department, but only to have if fail because of outdated data, is not useful in the process of reporting it.  As an internet user myself, it is a pain to get so much spam and abusive emails.  I'm tired of opening my mailbox on a daily basis, to see I've gotten not one, or two, but on average 75 spam messages a day.  And simply telling my email provider, in this case it is Yahoo, that an email is spam/abuse, is not enough to stop it from coming into my mailbox.  I now take the time to report it to the proper ISP that holds the IP address where the spam/abuse comes from, or sometimes its a potential virus that comes in the form of a URL/Web pages to visit.  So, I rely on having correct data.  Please look into developing a policy that will allow the ripe database managers the resources to contact ISP(s) when someone reports incorrect information, so that those of us, like me, who are tired of the amount of spam they get can have correct information when they go to look for it, instead of having to make phone contact with each individual ISP who happens to be international for me.  I know that the whois database at has the resources to make contact when someone reports incorrect data, so why not follow suit and have the same resources to do the same thing.

Matthew Brown

RIPE Database Manager ripe-dbm@localhost wrote:
To: BabyMatthew253 babymattb253@localhost
Subject: Re: Re: NCC#2007083003 Fwd: DELIVERY FAILURE:
From: RIPE Database Manager ripe-dbm@localhost
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:25:14 +0200

Dear BabyMatthew253,

Thank you for your email regarding out of date contact data in the RIPE

There may be options we could pursue to check the validity of the contact
data in the objects in the RIPE Database. Where we have a direct
relationship with the owners of these objects we could request that they
update this information. But we do not have a mandate from the RIPE
community to allocate any resources to this activity. If you feel this
should have a higher priority then you may raise the issue on the Database
Working Group or Antispam Working Group or Address Policy Working Group
mailing lists. You can find information about the mailing lists here

These are open working groups and views are welcomed from anyone who
wishes to discuss relevant issues.


Milena Rakin
RIPE Database Administration.

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