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Re: [anti-spam-wg@localhost] Spam-RBL, anyone?

  • From: der Mouse < >
  • Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:05:00 -0500 (EST)

>> Um.  I must be msising something.  What, pray tell, do you think the
>> administrative conjtact address _is_ for, if not administrative
>> issues?  Or do you not consider disciplining spammous users to be an
>> adminsitrative matter?
> We find it effective to use a dedicated role mailbox for each of (a
> small number of) categories of administrative issues.  We take care
> to advertise this in the whois records for our networks. a non-machine-parseable format.

Anything that depends on a human is reading the entry for correct
functioning is arguably broken; the reason for having a strict defined
format is so that the thing is machine parseable.

If you put up an abuse contact (I currently see only admin- and tech-),
and people _then_ send spam complaints to the admin contact, I might
agree with you.  Until then, I have trouble faulting them for using the
database as it's designed.

> It may be illegal (at least in the EU), because it constitutes use of
> the data to which the data subject has not given consent; a fortiori
> because the intended use of the data has been advertised precisely in
> the record which was abused.

Only for rather broad (and unuseful) definitions of "record" (the
advertisement to which you appear to be referring is in a remarks:
field, not one of the mechanically usable fields), and even then only
if you presume that whatever/whomever is reading the record understands
fully general English (which software can't yet).

If you think there should be a way of tagging some addresses with "this
address is for abuse issues", well, I agree with you; that's what
putting up an abuse contact would be about.  (If RIPE doesn't support
abuse contacts - I don't know - then perhaps you as a RIPE constituent
should work on having that changed, because it's causing you trouble.)

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