Re: [anti-spam-wg@localhost] Re: Abuse contact
- Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:31:17 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)
On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Florian Weimer wrote:
> "Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet" woeber@localhost writes:
>
> >>Isn't the IRT object dead?
> >
> > What is your definition of "dead" here? :-)
>
> I've seen no deployment so far, and I pretty much doubt we see
> large-scale use.
See down below. All inet-num objects maintained by SURFnet should contain en
mnt-irt attribute. If you encounter one though, please notify lir@localhost.
Getting the IRT object itself was -at the time- the hard bit as procedures had
not settled in yet. If your IP-space is well maintained with a mnt-by:
attribute in all inetnum objects it should be little work to update your
registrations. It was with us.
> I don't see why the same problem shouldn't resurface with the IRT
> object, after some time. As long as RIPE or some other entity doesn't
> receive funds to aggressively review those objects and flags offenders
> in some way, I don't see a real, long-term advantage.
Our irt-object is maintained by a trustbroker for CSIRTs, the European Trusted
Introducer (http://ti.terena.nl/).
> In addition, large shops, the people who care about security tend to
> have no word over the contents of WHOIS records. 8-(
But the people now receiving the admin-c/tech-c mail and busy forwarding
abuse-complaints to the appropriate people (oh my, am I naive ;) might be
interested in receiving *less* abuse-mail on their accounts. That might be the
right incentive to get whois-records updated.
Jan
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zuurtje(meijer)Wed ~ > whois -h whois.ripe.net 192.87.108.3
% This is the RIPE Whois server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html
inetnum: 192.87.108.0 - 192.87.111.255
netname: SIPLAN
descr: SURFnet bv
descr: Utrecht
country: NL
admin-c: SENS1-RIPE
tech-c: SENS1-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
notify: sens@localhost
notify: info@localhost
mnt-by: SN-LIR-MNT
mnt-irt: irt-CERT-NL
changed: Erik-Jan.Bos@localhost 19961219
changed: ripe-dbm@localhost 19990706
changed: jan.meijer@localhost 20000417
changed: jan.meijer@localhost 20010315
changed: Derk.Reinders@localhost 20010326
changed: Rogier.Spoor@localhost 20020607
source: RIPE
route: 192.87.0.0/16
descr: SURFnet CIDR Block IV
origin: AS1103
notify: netmaster@localhost
mnt-by: AS1103-MNT
mnt-lower: SN-LIR-MNT
changed: Erik-Jan.Bos@localhost 19960416
changed: Wim.Biemolt@localhost 20011213
source: RIPE
role: SURFnet Services and Support
address: Radboudkwartier 273
address: 3511 CK Utrecht
address: The Netherlands
phone: +31 30 2305305
fax-no: +31 30 2305329
e-mail: SenS@localhost
admin-c: JS489-RIPE
tech-c: JS489-RIPE
nic-hdl: SENS1-RIPE
notify: info@localhost
notify: SenS@localhost
mnt-by: SN-LIR-MNT
mnt-by: SN-LIR-MNT
changed: Jan.Meijer@localhost 19980107
changed: Derk.Reinders@localhost 20010326
source: RIPE
zuurtje(meijer)Wed ~ > whois -h whois.ripe.net irt-CERT-NL
% This is the RIPE Whois server.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html
irt: irt-CERT-NL
address: p/a SURFnet bv
address: Postbus 19035
address: 3501 DA Utrecht
phone: +31 30 2305305
fax-no: +31 30 2305329
e-mail: cert-nl@localhost
signature: PGPKEY-A6D57ECE
encryption: PGPKEY-A6D57ECE
admin-c: SAM36-RIPE
tech-c: SAM36-RIPE
auth: PGPKEY-834125A1
auth: PGPKEY-3D10C493
remarks: CERT-NL is the Computer Emergency Response Team of SURFnet
remarks: This is a level 2 IRT (http://www.ti.terena.nl/teams/level2.html)
irt-nfy: cert-nl@localhost
notify: info@localhost
notify: tiirt@localhost
mnt-by: TRUSTED-INTRODUCER-MNT
changed: menno.pieters@localhost 20020305
source: RIPE
role: SURFnet Account Management
address: Radboudkwartier 273
address: 3511 CK Utrecht
address: The Netherlands
phone: +31 30 2305305
fax-no: +31 30 2305329
e-mail: info@localhost
admin-c: WD42-RIPE
admin-c: PH300-RIPE
tech-c: WD42-RIPE
tech-c: PH300-RIPE
nic-hdl: SAM36-RIPE
notify: info@localhost
mnt-by: SN-LIR-MNT
changed: Peter.Hinrich@localhost 20000125
changed: Peter.Hinrich@localhost 20000801
changed: Walter.vanDijk@localhost 20010909
source: RIPE
