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Re: Hate Email and how to combat it outside the U.S.?

  • To: "Corcorran, Suzanne E." < >
  • From: Petra Zeidler < >
  • Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:39:09 +0200
  • Cc: "'anti-spam-wg@localhost" < >


Thus wrote Corcorran, Suzanne E. (SCorcorran@localhost):

> How does one force an entity outside of the US (Netherlands) who has an
> anonymous "remailer" service to provide documentation of hate email?

Get a court order? If the logfiles weren't, alas, damaged or imcomplete
due to technical error you might even get data.
Note, though, that with a correctly used anon remailer this will lead 
you to just another remailer in another coutry, probably also
with strong privacy laws, leading to another and another ..

The point of anon remailers is to be anonymous, really. :-)

The people running those remailers usually do this to provide freedom of
speech, not absence of persecution at criminal activities, though, and
if its a case of harassment the maintainers will seek to prevent further
abuse, usually by blocking mail to the victim of the harassment.

> I need the original email message with all headers intact showing the
> originator of the message as additional proof of threatening and harassing
> conduct to support already existing evidence.  When I requested this
> information from the host of the service, I was given an extremely rude
> reply.

Indeed. -Any- service provider keeping that much private data without need
should be drawn & quartered, not even beginning to consider providers of
an anon service. I suspect they at the very utmost have "mail from there 
to there". Besides, what would a mail packed into strong encryption help 
you? Are you familiar with e.g.

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