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Re: RIPE32 Anti-spam WG minutes (draft 1.1)

  • From: (G.W. Mills)
  • Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:28:06 GMT
  • Organization: European Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email
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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:32:21 -0800 (PST), Nate Waddoups
nathan@localhost wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Herman Van Uytven wrote:
> > Sorry, can we get back to what was the original question: who can be
> > contacted to make changes to this text.
> > If we do not have a contact, it is useless to do the dicussion here.
> > Since we are mostly system admins, I do not think we are the right people
> > to make juridical text.
> But, since we are mostly system admins, I *do* certainly believe that we
> represent a very significant group of people whose experise and
> understanding of the issues ought to be available to those who ARE
> creating the laws.
> If we don't try to guide the process, who will?  Lawmakers who don't even
> have email addresses? 
> I find that more than a little bit frightening!
Well, yes, which is why we already have no less than 2 Directives which put
UCE on an "opt-out" basis rather than "opt-in".  Although IIRC it was the
ministers at the Council who passed the first draft contrary to the will of
Commission and Parliament.

As our name implies, we are trying to build a *coalition* of various
interests (ISPs, business users, consumers) with one common aim, the
restriction or banning of UCE.  We will be putting our efforts into making
some input to the Legal Affairs Committee of the European Parliament (which
now is the best chance for getting amendments in).  A common approach is
probably to be recommended.

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Assume just 4 million businesses on the Internet today...
> If 1% of them sent you one piece of junk email per year,
> you'd still have to wade through over 100 messages per day.
Exactly.  The problem of scale which Those Who Govern Us have not yet
grasped.  Our task is to bring this to their attention.

George W. Mills  pro-tempore Chair, EuroCAUCE
Confucius say, 
"Great man does what is moral, small man does only what is profitable."
Do what is moral, help stop junk email, support CAUCE:
and EuroCAUCE:

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