[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)
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Hank Nussbacher
hank at efes.iucc.ac.il
Fri Mar 22 14:46:53 CET 2019
On 22/03/2019 14:17, Piotr Strzyzewski wrote: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:09:24AM +0000, Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg wrote: > > Dear Carlos, > >>> 8. "So Legacy holders (resources with a legacy status) are for obvious >>> reasons, excluded for penalties and out of reach. Also according to the >>> policy that specifies services to Legacy holders, as this policy doesn't >>> state that it wants to include and impact legacy holders." >> I don't agree. If you check i was one of the co-authors of 2012-07 :-) >> In my initial drafts for 2019-03, there was a line about legacy holders. It >> seems now clear it needs to be recovered for version 2.0 :-) > Although I have mixed feelings about this policy and haven't made my > mind yet, I wish you good luck with that one thing. As a large legacy holder, I do not want to be excluded or exempted from this new policy, if accepted. I can understand that if the legacy holder has not filed any paperwork with the NCC, then there is little one could do t penalized the offender. That is where I think Jordi's comment about the direct peer also comes in. Just as today when confronted with a BGP hijack and no response from the hijacking ASN, one approaches the direct upstream, so too the policy will have to set a policy on how to deal with the direct upstream that enables the hijack, whether it be from a legacy or a regular holder. Regards, Hank > > Piotr >
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