[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)
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Sascha Luck [ml]
aawg at c4inet.net
Wed Mar 20 23:29:15 CET 2019
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:26:28PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >countinue to make, the exact same mistake that Mr. Luck has made here, >i.e. failing to note the clear distinction between things that are >"political" and things that are abjectly and abundantly criminal, I don't think that word means what you think it does. "criminal" has a very precise legal meaning. If you think that advertisement of numbers is a criminal act, please provide jurisdiction, act and article under which it is. [much incoherent and, in this context irrelevant, rambling about U.S. politics omitted] >The one important difference, of course, is that 2019-03 calls for the >hijackers to be deprived not only of whatever they have stolen, but also >and additionally, of every number resource that they were ever legitimately >granted, after a due process. You must have read a different verion of this proposal than what I have read. The proposal calls for a "finding" to be made and a report submitted. Any consequences are not even within the mandate of RIPE policy. >I would just like it noted, for the record, that RIPE is actually not a >"monopoly provider", and that the four other RIRs might reasonably take >umbrage at the very suggestion. And, like so often, you are wrong here too. Each RIR is a monopoly provider for its own service region. Some RIRs even mandate that the resources they allocate and assign must not be used outside their service region. rgds, Sascha Luck
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