[anti-abuse-wg] 2017-02 Review Phase Reminder

 1) With a lot of words about improving trust and safety in Proposal's
summary, there is no evidence about issues with trust and safety with
uncheked "abuse-c:"
I've seen plenty of evidence and ramifications from first hand experience
when abuse notifications go ignored/unanswered.

2) In my experience, real abusers have all their contacts valid (and
responsive).
Please share more of your experiences. I've never heard of this claim nor
understand what a "real abuser" is.

3) Why only abuse-c have to be checked? There are a lot of different
contacts or information, that could be verified.
Because that's where you send abuse notifications. In many cases, these
will be critical messages regarding ongoing threats, such as a denial of
service attack or malware distribution.

Also, RIPE NCC executive just got extraordinary powers to revoke resource
False - no new powers are granted to RIPE NCC by this proposal.



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On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Alexander Isavnin <isavnin at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the reminder!
>
> Better late than never.
>
> I strongly oppose to this proposal.
>
> 1) With a lot of words about improving trust and safety in Proposal's
> summary, there is no evidence about issues with trust and safety with
> uncheked "abuse-c:"
> 2) In my experience, real abusers have all their contacts valid (and
> responsive).
> 3) Why only abuse-c have to be checked? There are a lot of different
> contacts or information, that could be verified.
>
> Also, RIPE NCC executive just got extraordinary powers to revoke
> resources. So we have to be very carefull with policies, which may lead to
> resource revocation just because of e-mail issues (i had such issues with
> RIPE NCC mail servers).
>
> Plus all other arguments against or concerning about this proposal, raised
> in discussion previously.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alexander Isavnin
>
>
>
> Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum
>
>
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