[anti-abuse-wg] Language on List

On Fri, 3 Feb 2017 08:53:36 +0000
Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet at heanet.ie> wrote:
> Folks,
> Really, none of this is useful or in any way related to network abuse.

Only as it relates to and serves to display "IRL" what different societies 
consider network abuse (or even mailing list abuse)

for example, content transmitted on networks could qualify as network
abuse as either the content (promotion of: slavery, sexism, brute pass
attempts, porn, whatever) is considered abuse by the network operator
OR, importantly, the society (country and/or culture even) of the
particular network or even network operator. Then, bulk unsolicited
packets could also be abuse,  depending again on the network operator, 
country or even society. In other societies (in EU/RIPE) porn and
certain things considered as 'abuse' elsewhere is acceptable (or tolerated
and/or not illegal, etc)

And, then on this mailing list: At which point does tolerance win out
over offense. -  As this too was demonstrated (which is cool, of course
and thank you for your service, etc)

OT: (Of course I agree 100% that talking about "refined" people
dominating "course people" is not relevant at all, except as it serves to display,
promote and advertise elitism -as a norm - or normal - or socially acceptable -
whereas and in truth, many abuse admins have to deal with an/or relate
to nefarious types all day long and creating an expectation that abuse
admins have to be "ladies & gentlemen" in order to join the dominating class
(or 1%) and/or to be promoted -- is really not cool. 

Not cool at all. 

Never mind the fact that such sexist remarks are extremely offensive 
and no apology was offered at all. 

So much for a practical and visible display of "refinement" 

At least in my society, it is not acceptable to grab people's cats 
and for sure, such a degree of courseness will never control a nuclear
arsenal... but well, I guess even the society of @harvard.edu is as it
practically does. )

People who live in glass houses should not play with (or throw) stones 
or was that people who live in paper huts should not play with matches?

Andre