[anti-abuse-wg] Bye Bye

Hi,

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:47:03PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> There has been little or no reason to adopt v6 so far, other than as an
> alternate means of connectivity to reach what, geek operated mail, ftp and
> rsync servers for Linux distros and assorted open source software?

Uh.  I'd say "providing IP connectivity to end users, without having
to go through a carrier-grade nat at their provider" seems to be compelling
enough that quite a number of large-scale providers in europe have started
to assign a /56 to all new customers...

> With some majors like Google starting to adopt it, and with only a few
> years left for a v4 aftermarket, carrier grade nat etc to have any effect,
> and with newer generations of devices yet to ship with v6 only stacks but
> that's a matter of time... That is when you will start to see the true
> uptake and growth of v6. I rather suspect what i predict may well happen in
> our lifetimes, or even in the couple of decades of years before I retire

"True uptake and growth" will happen in terms of traffic ratio, actual
usage ratio *inside* the IPv6 prefixes, but not so much in terms of 
"how many entities are all of a sudden becoming a RIR member to get 
IPv6 address space".

There's currently about 10.000 RIPE members - which is well inside the
bounds that can be served by RIPE's /12.  Why should entities that are not
RIPE members today become one, just because of IPv6 uptake?   And, more
interesting, why would the number go up by a factor of 50, to actually
threaten to fill the /12?

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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