[anti-abuse-wg] size DOES matter (sorry, had to use this subject :o)

Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:

Hi Michele,

> On 19 Dec 2011, at 15:29, russ at consumer.net wrote:
>

>> That is a simplistic argument from the early days the Internet and is often not true anymore.
>
> Ok, so how big is the network that you are running?
>

Hm. Lets use Russ' own tools at network-tools.com to estimate that:

   TraceRoute to 67.222.132.203 [consumer.net]

   Hop	(ms)	(ms)	(ms)		     IP Address	Host name
   1 	  0 	  0 	  0 	     67.222.132.203	 
67.222.132.203.tailormadeservers.com

   Trace complete

badly enough this whois service does not show any networks,
well lets look those up myself:

   Comcast Business Communications, LLC CBC-PHILADELPHIA-29 
(NET-70-90-0-0-1) 70.90.0.0 - 70.90.31.255
and
   THEKEYWORDFACTORYLLC THEKEYWORDFACTORYLLCNET (NET-67-222-132-192-1) 
67.222.132.192 - 67.222.132.254

and a whois for one of those domains

   Whois query for nwtools.com...

   Results returned from whois.internic.net:

... (the usual internic stuff) ...

    Domain Name: NWTOOLS.COM
    Registrar: TUCOWS.COM CO.
    Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
    Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
    Name Server: DNS.CONSUMER.NET
    Name Server: DNS2.CONSUMER.NET
    Status: ok
    Updated Date: 12-dec-2011
    Creation Date: 23-feb-2005
    Expiration Date: 23-feb-2015

... (the usual disclaimer) ...

Results returned from whois.tucows.com:

IP Address: 67.222.132.193
Maximum Daily connection limit reached. Lookup refused.

**** Daily limit reached, looks like Tucows
      is trying to protect their own service,
      those bad, bad boys :o )  ****

Hm, so I have to use our own whois at Tucows
(we are reseller of Tucows :o)

Registrant:
  Consumer.net, LLC
  PO Box 1860
  Ocean City, NJ 08226
  US

  Domain name: CONSUMER.NET

  Administrative Contact:
     Domain Administrator, Consumer.net  whois222 at consumer.net
     PO Box 1860
     Ocean City, NJ 08226
     US
     +1.6093983301

consumer.net is an LCC.
It calls itself "web development company", but does not
seem to have any customers.

consumer.net seems to simply bake a few network tools
and copyright and privacy website (wich mostly consist of a handfull 
"tweets" from twitter without even an own "design" or own
software installed on the own servers (so it looks like, if those
sites are giving all http-logs completly over to twitter !) and
places adverts all over them (even on the own homepage !) to make
money from it.

consumer.net is no IANA or ARIN (or other RIR) member
(as far as I could search the net), does not own
a own network and seems to simply rent a few housing
server at two different provider.

Furthermore, all "web design customers" share
the same few IPs and the same "design".

Finally directly from www.consumer.net:

" The types of advertisements displayed are based on a number of
   factors such as this site's content and your Internet browsing and
   search history. See the Privacy Policy for more information.

   This information is collected if a purchases are made, advertising
   services are purchased, or an inquiry is made.

   No third party marketers are used. "

So: consumer.net should not have any data about me visiting his site :o)

But this "service" is giving my data already to third parties,
e.g google and twitter
Great ...

BTW: there are 27 links pointing to www.consumer.net in google
and they are mostly from its other own sites.


So my estimation is:
- one person
- two servers
- 5 IPs
- no customers at all
- makes profit from collecting services from third parties
   (what is probably not allowed from those parties at all,
   otherwise consumer.net would have no access limits :o)
- gives all visitors data to third parties


I can only hope that this silly discussion will stop now.
Brian: please do something, that we are coming back to mails
regarding abuse AND ripe ...


Kind regards, Frank
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