[address-policy-wg] EU sanctions against Russia

Dear Leo,
Would you please say this to Athina Fragkouli.
Or she can?

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 1:59 PM Leo Vegoda <leo at vegoda.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Discussion of the charging scheme and how it is applied falls outside
> the scope of the Address Policy WG.
>
> The RIPE NCC's membership has a discussion list. That is the right
> place to discuss this topic:
>
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/membership-mailing-lists/subscribing-to-members-discuss
>
> It is worth noting that there are active discussions of charging
> related topics on that list.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 2:29 AM Stary Bezpiek
> <stary.bezpiecznik at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > W dniu 19.03.2022 o 06:59, Taras Heichenko pisze:
> > > Peace.
> > >
> > > I am glad to see that RIPE NCC is legally clean. There are questions about humanism but of course this is not a cope of work of RIPE NCC.
> >
> > In my opinion - it is not.
> > RIPE NCC claims to operate in accordance with its own policies, that are
> > created by the community.
> >
> > Meanwhile, we have a selective treatment of Members in terms of payments
> > without:
> > a) RIPE NCC resolutions
> > b) without annexes to contracts with users.
> > c) policy change
> > Neither the Agreement nor the existing policies allow for discretionary
> > behavior like "this user may not pay, and others must" without formal
> > authorization.
> >
> > Of course Ukraine as an attacked country can and must be treated with
> > any aid, including exemption from payments, when possible. But it has to
> > be passed by a resolution of the RIPE NCC ordinance. The resolution may
> > contain one sentence: "We do not issue invoices to Ukrainian members
> > until the end of the war." Vote: who is in favor? All? The End.
> >
> > On the other end is Russia, as a country that has been subject to
> > sanctions. It should not be of our interest, that they cannot pay. In
> > result, recognizing that Russia users may not pay, because they have
> > "banking difficulties" means, that no one from Russia will pay. Without
> > any consequences. Although they probably can pay. Letting go at this
> > point is very unfair to other Members.
> >
> > I also have a difficult in payment because the Euro exchange rate is
> > very high. Does it interest someone?
> >
> > --
> > Stary Bezpiecznik
> >
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Sergey