[address-policy-wg] EU sanctions against Russia

Hi Everyone,

Discussion of the charging scheme and how it is applied falls outside
the scope of the Address Policy WG.

The RIPE NCC's membership has a discussion list. That is the right
place to discuss this topic:

https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/membership-mailing-lists/subscribing-to-members-discuss

It is worth noting that there are active discussions of charging
related topics on that list.

Kind regards,

Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 2:29 AM Stary Bezpiek
<stary.bezpiecznik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> W dniu 19.03.2022 o 06:59, Taras Heichenko pisze:
> > Peace.
> >
> > I am glad to see that RIPE NCC is legally clean. There are questions about humanism but of course this is not a cope of work of RIPE NCC.
>
> In my opinion - it is not.
> RIPE NCC claims to operate in accordance with its own policies, that are
> created by the community.
>
> Meanwhile, we have a selective treatment of Members in terms of payments
> without:
> a) RIPE NCC resolutions
> b) without annexes to contracts with users.
> c) policy change
> Neither the Agreement nor the existing policies allow for discretionary
> behavior like "this user may not pay, and others must" without formal
> authorization.
>
> Of course Ukraine as an attacked country can and must be treated with
> any aid, including exemption from payments, when possible. But it has to
> be passed by a resolution of the RIPE NCC ordinance. The resolution may
> contain one sentence: "We do not issue invoices to Ukrainian members
> until the end of the war." Vote: who is in favor? All? The End.
>
> On the other end is Russia, as a country that has been subject to
> sanctions. It should not be of our interest, that they cannot pay. In
> result, recognizing that Russia users may not pay, because they have
> "banking difficulties" means, that no one from Russia will pay. Without
> any consequences. Although they probably can pay. Letting go at this
> point is very unfair to other Members.
>
> I also have a difficult in payment because the Euro exchange rate is
> very high. Does it interest someone?
>
> --
> Stary Bezpiecznik
>
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