[address-policy-wg] Comment on IPv4 depletion rate for proposal 2015-05
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Tue May 10 18:22:57 CEST 2016
Hi, On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 06:17:49PM +0200, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: > When your business is growing and your network is running off address > space' vapors, you're looking out for any oportunity to recover unused > adresses (really easy to do when you only got a mere /22 : usually > none). Then turn to the "Transfer (Blackmarket) Listing Service" and get > indecent (side) offers for newly assigned prefixes put up for rent. > > I don't need numbers to see there's something wrong : a market for > adress space must NOT exist. The listing service must be dismantled, and > no one should be able to profit from wrongly privatised public domain, > period. > > Unused inetnums must return to pool, and LIR's able to justify their > needs _periodicaly_ should be able to get some more juice off the > available pool, if they're also contributing to getting us all out of > this mess by actively promoting IPv6. > > Or am I a bit too commie for this discussion ? Bring up a workable proposal to ensure that this can be done, and we'll discuss it. Emphasis on *workable*, ensuring that people will not be able to just ignore the results and revert to lying to the NCC. So far, pragmatism led to the acceptance of a market *provided* people will update the registry information (so it is not a *black* market) - which is vastly better for the overall system than "look, I have this unused /16, do you want to rent it for $vastsums, but do not tell anybody!". As long as money can be made out of IPv4 space (read: people are going to pay for it), it will be made. If you all go to IPv6, IPv4 space will totally lose its value. Just sayin' Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20160510/cd78dfc0/attachment.sig>
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