[address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations
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Vladimir Andreev
vladimir at quick-soft.net
Thu Apr 23 14:31:17 CEST 2015
> openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR > is - and always was - abusing the policy. Any links to documents proving it? > but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is > almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ... Such a comparison is incorrect. 23.04.2015, 15:27, "Opteamax GmbH" <ripe at opteamax.de>: > Hello Gabriel, > > openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR > is - and always was - abusing the policy. So you acutally don't want to > speak against the change of Transfer-Policy but want to keep the > backdoor open. > > So if you think the last /8 policy is not OK - where consensus was > reached - you should stand up and make a change proposal for that. > > Knowing the way to bypass policy still does not mean, that it is > fair/legal. IMHO LIRs which are willingly abusing policies shall get > their entire resources withdrawn immediately, as they are not willing to > be part of the community, so shall not profit from community. > > Sorry, but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is > almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ... > > Regards > Jens > > On 23.04.2015 14:05, Infinity Telecom SRL wrote: >> Hello Gert, >> >> "at the transfer services" i saw sellers that want 17-20 USD per IP, >> this is crazy, do you want forward ? >> >> Do you think this is a normal ? >> >> If right now they ask soo much even when they know someone like me can >> open a new LIR an close after 1 year. >> >> What will happen when someone like me will open a LIR and pay 2 yrs >> before to move the IPs to the old LIR >> >> I tell you what will happen, the sellers will put another 5-7 USD per >> IP, for sure. >> >> Most of the guys that are pro this proposal have large blocks for sell.. >> >> I dont have large blocks.. i want to keep my IPs and have more resource.. >> >> Thank you. >> >> /-- >> Cu stima, >> Gabriel Voitis | Sales Manager >> /voitis at infinitytelecom.ro <mailto:voitis at infinitytelecom.ro> >> >> /INFINITY TELECOM SRL | Bd-ul Iuliu Maniu nr 7, Corp A, Scara 2 >> Mobil: +40 0725 677 477 | Tel: +40 021 7808805 | Fax: +40 021 7808806 >> /contact at infinitytelecom.ro <mailto:contact at infinitytelecom.ro> >> !DSPAM:637,5538e2cc256411567483881! > -- > Opteamax GmbH - RIPE-Team > Jens Ott > > Opteamax GmbH > > Simrockstr. 4b > 53619 Rheinbreitbach > > Tel.: +49 2224 969500 > Fax: +49 2224 97691059 > Email: jo at opteamax.de > > HRB: 23144, Amtsgericht Montabaur > Umsatzsteuer-ID.: DE264133989 -- With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503
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