[address-policy-wg] 2013-03 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (No Need - Post-Depletion Reality Adjustment and Clean up)

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On 01/08/2013 08:25, Gert Doering wrote:
> While you're free to do so, I'm just so slightly annoyed that
> you're doing this *again* - wait until the very last second, and
> then state fundamental objections.

I understand, and sympathise with your situation, but I'm not
intentionally "waiting until the very last second". I think your
criticism is a touch unfair.

FWIW, on RPKI I had been raising concerns *for years* in WG meetings.
It was only "at the very last second" that anybody explained to me
that I was being deliberately ignored on the grounds that "if it's not
said on the list, I didn't happen". Without such explanation, I had
assumed the meetings were authoritative and the mailing list was
merely supplementary co-ordination - which is how a many/most
organisations work. Once I was informed of the procedure, I followed
it immediately.

As for this, well I don't read the APWG mailing list normally. I
simply don't have time, it's not central to my job, and for most of
its work I would have nothing useful to contribute. A LINX member told
me about 2013-03 just a couple of weeks ago, and asked me to consider
speaking up against it. I did so as soon as I had sanity checked what
I intended to say.

So I'm sorry the issue didn't come to my attention sooner, but I can't
really apologise for doing my own job.

But to be honest, there's no need to focus on me. Whereas my input on
RPKI did stir up a whole load of new issues, and prompted entirely new
objections from others, on this you've already had most of the points
I raised mentioned in some form by other people. I just lent my
support to their concerns, and collated and marshalled some of them
into a unified argument. If you hadn't realised these "fundamental
objections" were already lying in the way of achieving rough
consensus, because you hadn't realised that those comments touched
upon something at the heart of the proposal, well I'm glad I was able
to assist.


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