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[address-policy-wg] 2011-05 Decision to move to Last Call (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
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Gert Doering
gert at Space.Net
Tue Apr 10 10:13:42 CEST 2012
Dear AP WG,
2011-05 (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space) has come to the end
of the Review Phase. Sander and I have gone through the mails sent by
you in the discussion phase and review phase, categorizing everything
into "support", "opposition", "side track discussion", and so on - as
usual :-) - all the details are listed below.
Overall, there was very strong support for the proposal, with a fairly
high number of supportive e-mails.
In the discussion phase, we had a number of people that wanted to see
textual changes, or required clarification on details. Some voices had
reservation or opposed the proposal initially but changed that to "neutral"
or "support" after discussion with the chairs. Two people opposed on
the principle of "no special rules" - more to that later.
In review phase, 18 individuals expressed their explicit support (some
of them relaying support from industry bodies, but this did not influence
the decision process).
One person sustained his opposition, based on "there should not be a
special rule for IXP/ISPs" and "only IXP folks are supporting their
support, non-IXPs are underrepresented and would otherwise oppose the
proposal". Indeed, many of the voices supporting the proposal have come
from people working for IXPs, but I see a number of supporters that I
know do *not* work for an IXP - and I also know that there are lots of
non-IXP people on the address policy list who are well-capable to express
their opposition to a policy proposal. So that part of the argument
doesn't hold.
Remains the counter-argument of non-supporting special-cases for IXPs -
and indeed, the address policy could be much more simple if all consumers
of IP addresses were equal. They aren't, and thus we allow special cases
if there is enough support for it. Counting voices, I see very strong
support.
So, we think that we have enough support to call consensus, and move to
Last Call. Emilio will do the formal announcement from the PDO soon.
If you disagree with our interpretation of what has been said, and the
conclusion we have drawn from it, please let us know.
Gert Doering,
Address Policy WG Chair
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Discussion Phase
pro
James Blessing
Babak Farrokhi
Brian Nisbet
Remco Van Mook
Martin Millnert
Sascha Lenz (even if "not a fan of special entities")
Niels Bakker
Tom Hodgson "worried about special cases, but still supports policy"
Henk Steenman
Wolfgang Tremmel
Larisa Yurkina
Harald Michl
David Freedman
Job Snijders
Vincent PAGES
Barry O'Donovan
Michiel Appelman
Steven Bakker
Tom Bird
Erik Bais
Jan Zorz
Carlos Friacas
David Croft
Basile Bluntschli
Rolf Schärer
Daniel Holme
Kjetil Otter Olsen
Sascha Luck
Nick Hilliard (with some reservactions about the "must do IPv6" bits)
against
Florian Weimer "IXPs shouldn't be special-cased"
chrish at consol.net "no special treatment... 'no'"
"this should not be necessary"
Nigel Titley (later agrees with intent of proposal)
Jim Reid ("reservations but no strong objection")
clarifications
Dan Luedtke ("which /16 is used?"), answered by proposer
Remco Van Mook (sizing criteria?), answered by proposer and chair, text
integrated into next version
Martin Millnert (what about multiple peering LANs?), answered by proposer
Sascha Lenz (renumbering time?), answered by Niels Bakker
Nigel Titley ("shouldn't be the every-lir-gets-a-/22 rule be good enough?"),
+1'ed by Jim Reid, answered by proposer
Henk Uijterwaal ("will v4 IXPs be needed after v4 runout?")
side-track "why does an IXP have to return PI and not PA?"
Florian Weimer, Niels Bakker
side-track "shouldn't this be limited to non-commercial IXPs?"
Erik Bais, Andy Davidson, Jim Reid
side-track "address assignment must be fair, no special rules for IXPs,
and non-IXP-folks are not properly represented at APWG anyway"
chrish at consol.net, Nick Hilliard (multiple mails)
Review Phase, v3.0 with textual changes suggested in discussion phase
pro
James Blessing
Sascha Luck
Jan Zorz
Sascha Lenz
Remco van Mook
Florian Hibler (needs more coffee)
Paul Thornton
Arnold Nipper
Job Snijders
Alexander Leefmann
Lindqvist Kurt Erik
Christian Kaufmann
Kjetil Otter Olsen
Petr Jiran
Jérôme Fleury
Jan Torreele
John Souter
Sylwester Biernacki
against
chrish at consol.net
side remark
Turchanyi Geza "it's good that the WG affected is supporting the proposal"
(side track discussion about organizations or individuals speaking in
the APWG)
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