[address-policy-wg] Revisiting RIPE Policy Proposal 2007-01
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Hank Nussbacher
hank at efes.iucc.ac.il
Thu Dec 4 20:09:01 CET 2008
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Gert Doering wrote: >> I did find this: >> http://www.ripe.net/news/gm-october-2008.html >> Interesting that 52 attendees out of 6000 RIPE members are able to make >> such a change. > > Note that I'm not a lawyer - but as far as I understand, this is how the > articles of the NCC are set up. The majority of the LIRs (+proxy votes) > that attend the AGM vote for the board members and decide on the charging > scheme (and possible changes to the articles). > > I could now argue "the remaining LIRs could have sent proxy votes" and > then you can answer "we haven't been invited" - we're turning in a circle, > and this is not a good situation and needs to be sorted out. This troubles me. Imagine RBN setting up 40-50 extra-small LIRs all for under 200-300KEuro and then manipulating the RIPE voting to favor almost any agenda they may have. Having such a criticial infrastructure such as RIPE being "adjusted" by just 52 votes (less than 1% of its members) is sheer madness IMHO. I would have hoped that the RIPE NCC would address this issue and encourage members to come and vote - give a free 8GB DOK if that is what is needed. :-) > I'm sorry if I came across as "arrogant" here. That wasn't my intention > - I really thought that all LIRs would receive these invitations, and I > think the best way to sort this out might be to ask lir-help at ripe.net to > look into their records - and depending on the outcome, it might be a > good idea to make sure that AGM invitations are definitely distributed > to the listed admin-c and tech-c contacts for a LIR. Gert, I don't think you came across arrogant at all. But in addition to distributing the AGM invites to not just ncc-announce but to admin-c and tech-c as you suggest, I would suggest we somehow get a larger pool of LIRs involved to vote - otherwise we may wake up in the near future to some very strange new policies. -Hank > > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 128645 > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 >
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