[members-discuss] Proposed 2012 Charging scheme, Board comments
Jon Morby jon at fido.net
Mon Oct 3 09:35:19 CEST 2011
18m Euro? Perhaps in these times of austerity we should be looking at reducing operating costs not increasing them. Even €15m seems somewhat excessive in my mind despite the numerous benefits RIPE brings to the Internet as a whole (most of which we don't realise or see) :( Sent from my iPhone On 2 Oct 2011, at 19:51, "SPEEDNIC S.R.L. - RIPE Handling" <ripe-lir at speednic.eu> wrote: > Hi Gert, > > Am 02.10.2011 14:39, schrieb Gert Doering: >> Hi, >> >> On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 11:10:23AM -0300, SPEEDNIC S.R.L. - RIPE Handling wrote: >>> As revewed the change matrix it means that like all membres will >>> increase one or two categories in the charging scheme. Only a very small >>> amount will decrease. This guess to us that the budget will increase a >>> lot too ?? Why RIPE NCC will need a so high budget for 2012 instead of >>> 2011 ?? >> >> The distribution of LIRs to charging categories happens in such a way >> that the resulting income will match the budget. Normally the budget >> for 2012 should not be much higher than for 2011 (detailed numbers will >> usually be published before the AGM), so it looks like you have not used >> fully correct numbers. >> >> Gert Doering >> -- NetMaster > > sorry but I must tell you that you're wrong. I have based the members > (Budget 2011 - 7725 Members - from RIPE document > https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm/november-2010/ChargingSchemeslides.pdf) > with the change matrix of 2012 and have recalculated the fees with the > following result : > > Based on a calculation of 7725 members in Year 2011 the budget was about > 15.190.750 EUR (based on 2011 charging prices) for the member fees. > > Based on the new 2012 scheme the budget will be about 18.538.000 EUR > (+/- a little bit in fact of rounding difference). So in total we can > speak about an increase of more than 3.000.000 EUR (about +20% as for > 2011) of the member fees !?!?!?! > > In my calculation I don't putting in the PI space because the price of > 50 EUR hasn't changed. I never seen that the costs will increase 20% > within one year. So what you mean now ?? > > Best regards, > Alexander Schoberl > SPEEDNIC S.R.L. > > > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/view > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.