From henk at ripe.net Thu Nov 1 08:22:23 2007 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:22:23 +0100 Subject: Minutes tt-wg@ripe54 In-Reply-To: <4720B93C.6080805@ripe.net> References: <4720336D.3080605@ripe.net> <4720B93C.6080805@ripe.net> Message-ID: <47297EAF.4010108@ripe.net> Dear all, >> This got stuck somewhere but finally here are the minutes of the TT-WG >> @ RIPE 54. > > When I asked if anybody had had a chance to read them at the WG this > afternoon, nobody had. So, please send your comments to the list or > to me privately before Thursday, November 1, 9:00 UTC. After that, > these minutes will be declared final. No comments have been received so these are final. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections From henk at ripe.net Thu Nov 1 16:13:53 2007 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:13:53 +0100 Subject: New Chair for the Working Group Message-ID: <4729ED31.8030602@ripe.net> Dear All, As I said last week in the TT-WG meeting, the current chair of the TT-WG (Alex Tudor) indicated that he wants to step down as chair. This week, Ian Meikle from Nominet voluntered to take over his position. The next question is: is there anybody else who is interested in this position. Please let me know by Dec 1. If we have >1 candidate, then Alex and I will organize elections, if not, Alex, Ian and myself will work on the transition from old to new chair. Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections From henk at ripe.net Mon Nov 5 11:57:33 2007 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:57:33 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: RIPE 55: TTM WG Minutes] Message-ID: <472EF71D.2040807@ripe.net> Dear All, Please find below the draft minutes of the TT-WG at RIPE 55. Comments to me please, Henk = = = = = RIPE Meeting: 55 Working Group: Test Traffic Status: Draft Revision Number: 1 Content to the Chair of the Working Group. Format to webmaster at ripe.net. Co-Chairs Alex Tudor and Henk Uijterwaal Scribe Fergal Cunningham Jabber Tiziana Refice A. Administrative Matters http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/ii-agenda.pdf Henk Uijterwaal chaired the meeting. He explained that minutes from RIPE 54 were posted and proposed that they stay open for a week so people can see them. B. Selection of New Working Group Chair Henk explained that Alex Tudor was unable to attend RIPE 55. This situation is unlikely to change so a new Chair is needed. Henk asked that anyone interested in taking on the position sends him a mail, and if no one volunteers he will actively seek candidates. C. TTM future - Mark Dranse (RIPE NCC) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/dranse-ttm.pdf Mark Dranse reported on the RIPE NCC's ideas on the future of TTM (Part II). He reported on what has happened since the last meeting, RIPE 54, and where the RIPE NCC plans to go from there. The vision is the same as it was for RIPE 54: ? To expand and maintain the TTM network ? To increase the value of the service to the community at large, and to the owners of the probes ? To enhance network and measurement architecture ? To improve result reporting and TTM network alarms ? To improve admin and pricing Mark went into further detail on the five key points of the vision. He also went into detail on the proposed pricing model and asked if anyone had questions. He explained that consensus would be sought before the plan is implemented. He also encouraged feedback on all RIPE NCC Information Services. Questions Will Hargrave (LONAP) asked that, when replacing hardware, there won't be a need to replace the GSP antennae on roofs so are these going to be replaced with the rest of the hardware? Mark responded that the replacement of the hardware only applies to the server. If the GPS antenna works properly it should be left there. Brian Nisbet (HEAnet) commented that IPv6 multicast has been mentioned on the mailing lists and that he was very interested in when this will happen? Mark responded that a later presentation will cover multicast. IPv6 is already enabled across the entire network. Niall O?Reilly (University College Dublin) asked what the timescale for a new sales packaging is? He continued that he wants a test-box but doesn?t want to do paperwork before it all changes. Mark responded that when consensus is reached, a new sales package will be implemented. New contracts for new users will be phased in. Henk asked if a new service contract was updated yet? Mark responded that contract has not yet been updated. Henk asked the group if there were any objections to the scheme? There were no objections. Henk said he would now circulate this message of consensus on the TT WG mailing list. D. Status of the TTM Service ? Ruben van Staveren (RIPE NCC) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/van-staveren-ttm.pdf Ruben reported on the status of the TTM network. There were no questions. E. Using TTM to Monitor AMS-IX ? Geert Nijpels (AMS-IX) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/nijpels-amsix-performance.pdf Geert reported on the use of the TTM box at AMS-IX. This was an update of a presentation given two years ago on the status of the box. There were no questions. F. Multicast Monitoring Status Report ? Franz Schwarzinger (RIPE NCC) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/schwarzinger-multicast.pdf Franz gave an update on the status of the multicast monitoring on RIPE NCC test-boxes. The presentation updated reports given in the previous two RIPE Meetings. Franz asked for people with a test-box to e-mail tt-ops at ripe.net if they wanted to activate monitoring for IPv6. There were no questions. Z. A.O.B. Ruben presented a slide on IPv6 not being compatible with global warming. Packet losses were found to be averted by the installation of a cooling box. Henk asked if there was any other business. There were none. The session ended. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections From henk at ripe.net Fri Nov 23 11:05:53 2007 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:05:53 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: RIPE 55: TTM WG Minutes] In-Reply-To: <472EF71D.2040807@ripe.net> References: <472EF71D.2040807@ripe.net> Message-ID: <4746A601.9010700@ripe.net> Dear All, > Please find below the draft minutes of the TT-WG at RIPE 55. Comments > to me please, There have been no comments, so these minutes are now final. Kind regards, Henk > > Henk > > = = = = = > > RIPE Meeting: 55 > Working Group: Test Traffic > Status: Draft > Revision Number: 1 > Content to the Chair of the Working Group. > Format to webmaster at ripe.net. > > Co-Chairs Alex Tudor and Henk Uijterwaal > Scribe Fergal Cunningham > Jabber Tiziana Refice > > A. Administrative Matters > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/ii-agenda.pdf > Henk Uijterwaal chaired the meeting. He explained that minutes from RIPE > 54 were posted and proposed that they stay open for a week so people can > see them. > > B. Selection of New Working Group Chair > Henk explained that Alex Tudor was unable to attend RIPE 55. This > situation is unlikely to change so a new Chair is needed. Henk asked > that anyone interested in taking on the position sends him a mail, and > if no one volunteers he will actively seek candidates. > > C. TTM future - Mark Dranse (RIPE NCC) > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/dranse-ttm.pdf > Mark Dranse reported on the RIPE NCC's ideas on the future of TTM (Part > II). He reported on what has happened since the last meeting, RIPE 54, > and where the RIPE NCC plans to go from there. > > The vision is the same as it was for RIPE 54: > ? To expand and maintain the TTM network > ? To increase the value of the service to the community at large, and to > the owners of the probes > ? To enhance network and measurement architecture > ? To improve result reporting and TTM network alarms > ? To improve admin and pricing > > Mark went into further detail on the five key points of the vision. > > He also went into detail on the proposed pricing model and asked if > anyone had questions. He explained that consensus would be sought before > the plan is implemented. > > He also encouraged feedback on all RIPE NCC Information Services. > > Questions > > Will Hargrave (LONAP) asked that, when replacing hardware, there won't > be a need to replace the GSP antennae on roofs so are these going to be > replaced with the rest of the hardware? > > Mark responded that the replacement of the hardware only applies to the > server. If the GPS antenna works properly it should be left there. > > Brian Nisbet (HEAnet) commented that IPv6 multicast has been mentioned > on the mailing lists and that he was very interested in when this will > happen? > > Mark responded that a later presentation will cover multicast. IPv6 is > already enabled across the entire network. > > Niall O?Reilly (University College Dublin) asked what the timescale for > a new sales packaging is? He continued that he wants a test-box but > doesn?t want to do paperwork before it all changes. > > Mark responded that when consensus is reached, a new sales package will > be implemented. New contracts for new users will be phased in. > > Henk asked if a new service contract was updated yet? > Mark responded that contract has not yet been updated. > > Henk asked the group if there were any objections to the scheme? > > There were no objections. Henk said he would now circulate this message > of consensus on the TT WG mailing list. > > D. Status of the TTM Service ? Ruben van Staveren (RIPE NCC) > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/van-staveren-ttm.pdf > > Ruben reported on the status of the TTM network. > > There were no questions. > > E. Using TTM to Monitor AMS-IX ? Geert Nijpels (AMS-IX) > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/nijpels-amsix-performance.pdf > > > Geert reported on the use of the TTM box at AMS-IX. This was an update > of a presentation given two years ago on the status of the box. > > There were no questions. > > F. Multicast Monitoring Status Report ? Franz Schwarzinger (RIPE NCC) > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/schwarzinger-multicast.pdf > > Franz gave an update on the status of the multicast monitoring on RIPE > NCC test-boxes. The presentation updated reports given in the previous > two RIPE Meetings. Franz asked for people with a test-box to e-mail > tt-ops at ripe.net if they wanted to activate monitoring for IPv6. > > There were no questions. > > Z. A.O.B. > > Ruben presented a slide on IPv6 not being compatible with global > warming. Packet losses were found to be averted by the installation of a > cooling box. > > Henk asked if there was any other business. There were none. The session > ended. > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections From henk at ripe.net Fri Nov 23 11:09:37 2007 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:09:37 +0100 Subject: WGLC for comments on the TTM future. In-Reply-To: <472EF71D.2040807@ripe.net> References: <472EF71D.2040807@ripe.net> Message-ID: <4746A6E1.50300@ripe.net> Dear All, At RIPE 55, the following was discussed: > C. TTM future - Mark Dranse (RIPE NCC) > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/dranse-ttm.pdf > Mark Dranse reported on the RIPE NCC's ideas on the future of TTM (Part > II). [...] > Henk asked the group if there were any objections to the scheme? > There were no objections. Henk said he would now circulate this message > of consensus on the TT WG mailing list. This is a WG Last Call for this. If you disagree with the proposal, please speak up before December 7. If there are no comments, we'll declare consensus. Henk (tt-wg co-chair). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections From henk at ripe.net Fri Nov 23 11:10:30 2007 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:10:30 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: RIPE 55: TTM WG Minutes] In-Reply-To: <4746A601.9010700@ripe.net> References: <472EF71D.2040807@ripe.net> <4746A601.9010700@ripe.net> Message-ID: <4746A716.3060709@ripe.net> Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > Dear All, > >> Please find below the draft minutes of the TT-WG at RIPE 55. Comments >> to me please, > > There have been no comments, so these minutes are now final. Kind regards, Actually, there was a comment, we'll fix that. Henk > Henk > > >> >> Henk >> >> = = = = = >> >> RIPE Meeting: 55 >> Working Group: Test Traffic >> Status: Draft >> Revision Number: 1 >> Content to the Chair of the Working Group. >> Format to webmaster at ripe.net. >> >> Co-Chairs Alex Tudor and Henk Uijterwaal >> Scribe Fergal Cunningham >> Jabber Tiziana Refice >> >> A. Administrative Matters >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/ii-agenda.pdf >> Henk Uijterwaal chaired the meeting. He explained that minutes from RIPE >> 54 were posted and proposed that they stay open for a week so people can >> see them. >> >> B. Selection of New Working Group Chair >> Henk explained that Alex Tudor was unable to attend RIPE 55. This >> situation is unlikely to change so a new Chair is needed. Henk asked >> that anyone interested in taking on the position sends him a mail, and >> if no one volunteers he will actively seek candidates. >> >> C. TTM future - Mark Dranse (RIPE NCC) >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/dranse-ttm.pdf >> Mark Dranse reported on the RIPE NCC's ideas on the future of TTM (Part >> II). He reported on what has happened since the last meeting, RIPE 54, >> and where the RIPE NCC plans to go from there. >> >> The vision is the same as it was for RIPE 54: >> ? To expand and maintain the TTM network >> ? To increase the value of the service to the community at large, and to >> the owners of the probes >> ? To enhance network and measurement architecture >> ? To improve result reporting and TTM network alarms >> ? To improve admin and pricing >> >> Mark went into further detail on the five key points of the vision. >> >> He also went into detail on the proposed pricing model and asked if >> anyone had questions. He explained that consensus would be sought before >> the plan is implemented. >> >> He also encouraged feedback on all RIPE NCC Information Services. >> >> Questions >> >> Will Hargrave (LONAP) asked that, when replacing hardware, there won't >> be a need to replace the GSP antennae on roofs so are these going to be >> replaced with the rest of the hardware? >> >> Mark responded that the replacement of the hardware only applies to the >> server. If the GPS antenna works properly it should be left there. >> >> Brian Nisbet (HEAnet) commented that IPv6 multicast has been mentioned >> on the mailing lists and that he was very interested in when this will >> happen? >> >> Mark responded that a later presentation will cover multicast. IPv6 is >> already enabled across the entire network. >> >> Niall O?Reilly (University College Dublin) asked what the timescale for >> a new sales packaging is? He continued that he wants a test-box but >> doesn?t want to do paperwork before it all changes. >> >> Mark responded that when consensus is reached, a new sales package will >> be implemented. New contracts for new users will be phased in. >> >> Henk asked if a new service contract was updated yet? >> Mark responded that contract has not yet been updated. >> >> Henk asked the group if there were any objections to the scheme? >> >> There were no objections. Henk said he would now circulate this message >> of consensus on the TT WG mailing list. >> >> D. Status of the TTM Service ? Ruben van Staveren (RIPE NCC) >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/van-staveren-ttm.pdf >> >> Ruben reported on the status of the TTM network. >> >> There were no questions. >> >> E. Using TTM to Monitor AMS-IX ? Geert Nijpels (AMS-IX) >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/nijpels-amsix-performance.pdf >> >> >> Geert reported on the use of the TTM box at AMS-IX. This was an update >> of a presentation given two years ago on the status of the box. >> >> There were no questions. >> >> F. Multicast Monitoring Status Report ? Franz Schwarzinger (RIPE NCC) >> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/schwarzinger-multicast.pdf >> >> Franz gave an update on the status of the multicast monitoring on RIPE >> NCC test-boxes. The presentation updated reports given in the previous >> two RIPE Meetings. Franz asked for people with a test-box to e-mail >> tt-ops at ripe.net if they wanted to activate monitoring for IPv6. >> >> There were no questions. >> >> Z. A.O.B. >> >> Ruben presented a slide on IPv6 not being compatible with global >> warming. Packet losses were found to be averted by the installation of a >> cooling box. >> >> Henk asked if there was any other business. There were none. The session >> ended. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Is one of the choices leaving the office open? Alan Greenspan on the next elections