[routing-wg] Adding "::" notation to RIPE DB

/me wrote on Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:46 AM:
> Coming back to your original question 

> James Bensley asked on Monday, November 7, 2022 10:02 AM:
>> "what it would take to allow the use of the "::" indicator in the
>> "members" field of an AS-SET and Route-Set so that in my own AS-SET 
>> I can specify the correct source for the direct members":

> I would say, get RFC2622 updated. And I fear, likely this will not
> going to happen very soon or fast or maybe not at all, as the new
> notation is not backward compatible. 

Just to be more constructive and as written before (but as stated
before, I'll not propose it "officially" as it looks a bit clumsy 
and is based on "unwritten rules" and I think it's more worth to
put some efforts in some better and more formal and final solution
than "lifting" IRR):

Rather prepending set names with RR::, you could propose to the 
wider (than RIPE) community to read set names ending in e.g.
"-AUTH-IN-RR" or ":AS-AUTH-IN-RR" to be treated as "only valid
if source of this object is RR".

That will not violate the naming convention of set names / RFC2622.
It's backward compatible. Nothing breaks or anyone needs to update
anything. 

Smarter tools (or IRRD if asked to do so) could then verify if the
set's source is the stated RR. Even if someone else would register
the same set name in another open RR, it wouldn't be considered (by
the right tools) as the authoritative one. 

But it looks ugly (too many letters around your great company name),
doesn't prevent some unknowledgeable persons -following some "as-sets
for dummies" guides- to register something like AS-FOO:AS-AUTH-IN-RIPE
in RADB and shooting themselves in the foot and it requires a more or
less informal agreement across a wider group of tool developers and
users. [And likely more ...]

And -but that's true for any solution- you need to get people update
their as set, update upstreams, customers, peers, IXes, various objects,
Web entries, [...] and use new tooling, understanding the ending people
agreed on.

Markus