[routing-wg] 2018-06 Can we have additional methods for validation or have the NCC not be so obstinate on doing removals
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Cosmin Lupu
cosmin at lupu.be
Wed May 29 07:31:15 CEST 2019
Have a look on the following proposal which is now in discussion phase https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2018-06 On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:16 AM Delacruz, Anthony B < Anthony.DeLaCruz at centurylink.com> wrote: > Just referring to NONAUTH. I recycle and clean up 300K+ IP's every year > and part of that is clearing reverse, blacklist, and IRR entries. RIPE has > been an annoyance of mine for years with requests to get stale IRR pulled > on items we own being a fight but nowhere near as bad as ALTDB that never > responds to asks. The L3 now CTL IRR has been owned and managed all this > time and easy to get updates. Reach out to the NOC or send in an ask to > ipadmin and it'll be checked and corrected. All of them suffer even ours > suffer from the litter left behind and we have efforts to clear that out, > but more just comes in daily. My main concern and ask here is getting the > NCC to take action and clear out items I know are wrong on space I own and > can prove I own in other ways than just RPKI. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jared Mauch [mailto:jared at puck.nether.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 6:20 PM > To: Delacruz, Anthony B > Cc: routing-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [routing-wg] 2018-06 Can we have additional methods for > validation or have the NCC not be so obstinate on doing removals > > > > > On May 28, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Delacruz, Anthony B > <Anthony.DeLaCruz at CenturyLink.com> wrote: > > > > I’m very appreciative for the efforts here to clean out the IRR. I am a > major resource holder with IP’s and ASN’s from all the RIR and we also run > an IRR. I am often frustrated that when I open a ticket with the NCC and > even place an entry in whois on space I own that is clearly listed wrong in > RIPE-NONAUTH IRR that it is a multi week struggle to get entries removed > and they have me chase the contact that put in the entry which is often not > responsive. > > > > Since not all of my space right now is easily taken care of using RPKI > for this, I would very much like to suggest additional methods be available > for the NCC to consider a valid request for removal. Other IRR’s I work > with we usually send the request from the MNT or POC that is on the > account/orgid/lir listed with the RIR and in some cases I go as far as to > set whois on the blocks with various messages like “please clear, IRR BAD, > Hijacked, Recovered Space” and several other messages to make it understood > the range has some reason we don’t want an IRR entry to be showing for it. > Many of the dozen other IRR are quick and a pleasure to work with but the > NCC is not ever easy or prompt on the cases I have put in. > > This communication is the property of CenturyLink and may contain > confidential or privileged information. Unauthorized use of this > communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender > by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the communication and any > attachments. > > Is this just with RIPE-NONAUTH, or in the regular source: RIPE objects? > > RIPE-NONAUTH is a bit of a wild-west and I suspect most people would be > best served if they stopped building filters with that set unless their > customers specifically requested it. > > I’ll also make note that the Level3 (now CTL?) IRR has not had an owner > for many years and people have had a hard time communicating about issues > with objects there. I understand why cleanup is hard or unpopular (it’s > like picking up litter, there’s little reward or notice that the trash was > taken away). > > - Jared > > > > This communication is the property of CenturyLink and may contain > confidential or privileged information. Unauthorized use of this > communication is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender > by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the communication and any > attachments. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/routing-wg/attachments/20190529/bf72e9f0/attachment.html>
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