From giustina at toenail.com Tue Oct 4 05:34:12 2005 From: giustina at toenail.com (Giustina Custer) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:34:12 -0500 Subject: [ris-int] Re: Hi centrepiece Message-ID: <001a01c5c894$7c891200$3061a8c0@philologist> Hi, nice to meet you. Do you pend less On tions? want to s your Meddica VXALVC iaggannammbievitalliiall ra $3xentraum $3is $1 33 .75.21 plus many other The webssitee Have a good day -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ris-request at ripe.net Tue Oct 4 13:27:58 2005 From: ris-request at ripe.net (RIPE NCC RIS) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 13:27:58 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Fw: NCC#2005092753 [ris peering] Message-ID: <200510041127.j94BRw61023897@cat.ripe.net> Hello, We received this suggestion from a user present in NIX (Norway). I suppose we could configure an eBGP session with him on RRC0. What do you think? Thanks, Vasco Asturiano -------------------------- Software Engineering Dept. RIPE-NCC ----- Begin forwarded message ----- Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:49:03 +0200 From: J?rgen Hovland To: Subject: NCC#2005092753 ris peering Cc: Message-Id: <200509300849.j8U8n33R008517 at mail03.hipercom.no> We recently had problems with fraud from non-registered ip-addresses in Norway. We tried tracing it with as-inused but RIS don?t have NIX on its list and it wasn?t found on the other IX?s. Therefore I would like to ask if you would be interested in bgp feed from NIX, The Norwegian Internet Exchange, to be used publicly and if you have any requirements and things like that. Our ASN is 16186 and we peer with most peers on NIX. Thank you J?rgen Hovland SSC Tel +47 46667666 ------ End forwarded message ------ -- From arife at ripe.net Fri Oct 7 15:55:36 2005 From: arife at ripe.net (Arife Vural) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:55:36 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Fw: NCC#2005092753 [ris peering] In-Reply-To: <200510041127.j94BRw61023897@cat.ripe.net> References: <200510041127.j94BRw61023897@cat.ripe.net> Message-ID: <20051007135535.GK23591@ripe.net> I think it will be a nice to set-up a session on RRC00. Now, RRC00 is bit struggle because of low memory. After we get more memory for RRC00, we can configure more sessions. Arife On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:27:58PM +0200, RIPE NCC RIS wrote: > Hello, > > We received this suggestion from a user present in NIX (Norway). > I suppose we could configure an eBGP session with him on RRC0. > What do you think? > > Thanks, > > Vasco Asturiano > -------------------------- > Software Engineering Dept. > RIPE-NCC > > ----- Begin forwarded message ----- > > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:49:03 +0200 > From: J?rgen Hovland > To: > Subject: NCC#2005092753 ris peering > Cc: > Message-Id: <200509300849.j8U8n33R008517 at mail03.hipercom.no> > > > We recently had problems with fraud from non-registered ip-addresses in > Norway. We tried tracing it with as-inused but RIS don?t have NIX on its > list and it wasn?t found on the other IX?s. Therefore I would like to ask if > you would be interested in bgp feed from NIX, The Norwegian Internet > Exchange, to be used publicly and if you have any requirements and things > like that. > > > > Our ASN is 16186 and we peer with most peers on NIX. > > > > Thank you > > > > J?rgen Hovland > > SSC > > Tel +47 46667666 > > > > > > > ------ End forwarded message ------ > > -- > > -- Arife Vural SED, RIPE NCC From vasco at ripe.net Fri Oct 7 18:05:05 2005 From: vasco at ripe.net (Vasco Asturiano) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:05:05 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Fw: NCC#2005092753 [ris peering] In-Reply-To: <20051007135535.GK23591@ripe.net> References: <200510041127.j94BRw61023897@cat.ripe.net> <20051007135535.GK23591@ripe.net> Message-ID: <43469CB1.7050801@ripe.net> Hi, Ok, I answered Jorgen and told him that we can configure a multi-hop session with him, but we have to wait until the box is prepared to cope with the extra session(s). Cheers, Vasco Arife Vural wrote: >I think it will be a nice to set-up a session on RRC00. Now, RRC00 >is bit struggle because of low memory. After we get more memory for >RRC00, we can configure more sessions. > >Arife > >On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:27:58PM +0200, RIPE NCC RIS wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>We received this suggestion from a user present in NIX (Norway). >>I suppose we could configure an eBGP session with him on RRC0. >>What do you think? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Vasco Asturiano >>-------------------------- >>Software Engineering Dept. >>RIPE-NCC >> >>----- Begin forwarded message ----- >> >>Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:49:03 +0200 >>From: J?rgen Hovland >>To: >>Subject: NCC#2005092753 ris peering >>Cc: >>Message-Id: <200509300849.j8U8n33R008517 at mail03.hipercom.no> >> >> >>We recently had problems with fraud from non-registered ip-addresses in >>Norway. We tried tracing it with as-inused but RIS don?t have NIX on its >>list and it wasn?t found on the other IX?s. Therefore I would like to ask if >>you would be interested in bgp feed from NIX, The Norwegian Internet >>Exchange, to be used publicly and if you have any requirements and things >>like that. >> >> >> >>Our ASN is 16186 and we peer with most peers on NIX. >> >> >> >>Thank you >> >> >> >>J?rgen Hovland >> >>SSC >> >>Tel +47 46667666 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------ End forwarded message ------ >> >>-- >> >> >> >> > > > From hong-wei_kong at agilent.com Wed Oct 12 10:26:46 2005 From: hong-wei_kong at agilent.com (hong-wei_kong at agilent.com) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:26:46 +0800 Subject: [ris-int] A patch to the bug of Atomic Aggregator Ip Address Missing problem for bgpdump in Libbgpdump-1.4 Message-ID: Hello Lorenzo, Recently I have fixed a bug of Missing Atomic Aggregator IP address in the -m format output of bgpdump. Will you please apply the patch to the source codes at http://www.ris.ripe.net/source/? Thank you very much. One full package is provided in this email. 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Maybe, you will be interested in putting RIPE NCC info there as well. -- Arife Vural SED, RIPE NCC From arife at ripe.net Mon Oct 24 23:55:56 2005 From: arife at ripe.net (Arife Vural) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:55:56 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] [ripe.net #123205] PeeringDB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051024215556.GA9498@ripe.net> Just heard about PeeringDB (www.peeringdb.com) at Peering BOF, NANOG. It's a free service. I think it's quite useful to get peering contact and peering info. I'm thinking to put RIS info there. Maybe, you will be interested in putting RIPE NCC info there as well. -- Arife Vural SED, RIPE NCC From henk at ripe.net Tue Oct 25 02:16:36 2005 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:16:36 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Tools using the RIS Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051025020933.02ce0a58@localhost> Hi all, Arife and I just sat through a bof on BGP analysis where a few tools using RIS and/or RV data were presented. I've no idea how useful those tools actually are but if they are only presented at NANOG, I doubt that many people in the RIPE region will hear that tehy are available, let alone test drive them. Random idea: shouldn't we make a page on the ris website with links to all the tools that we know of. On the page, we can also put a bit of text inviting people to send us links if they develop tools and tell them that we'd be happy to announce new entries to the RIPE mailing lists. This will give the developpers more exposure for their tools and make it easier for the community to find all tools based on the RIS. At the same time, I think http://www.ripe.net/projects/ris/docs/analysis.html Deserves an entry in the left column. Henk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look here junior, don't you be so happy. And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad. (Tom Verlaine) From wilhelm at ripe.net Tue Oct 25 04:56:37 2005 From: wilhelm at ripe.net (Rene Wilhelm) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 04:56:37 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Tools using the RIS In-Reply-To: Message from Henk Uijterwaal of "Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:16:36 +0200." <6.2.3.4.2.20051025020933.02ce0a58@localhost> Message-ID: <200510250256.j9P2ub5P010391@birch.ripe.net> > Arife and I just sat through a bof on BGP analysis where a few tools > using RIS and/or RV data were presented. I've no idea how useful those > tools actually are but if they are only presented at NANOG, I doubt that > many people in the RIPE region will hear that tehy are available, let > alone test drive them. > Random idea: shouldn't we make a page on the ris website with links > to all the tools that we know of. That's one thing, but what I think the RIPE community (operators) would really like is for the RIS service to be expanded with tools we consider best, as was done with BGPlay. Operators don't have time to investigate the work done by researchers in various universities, they need hands on tools working on the full set of RIS data. With the large number of peers RIS has now, any query via the RIS cgis yields an overwhelming amount of data. RIS could sure do with some intermediate, higher level, overview of the results. BGPinspect e.g. starts with a nice summary (graphical and in text) before listing the raw results. (http://bgpinspect.merit.edu/) -- Rene From arife at ripe.net Tue Oct 25 17:23:20 2005 From: arife at ripe.net (Arife Vural) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:23:20 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Re: Tools using the RIS In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051025020933.02ce0a58@localhost> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20051025020933.02ce0a58@localhost> Message-ID: <20051025152319.GB13869@ripe.net> > Arife and I just sat through a bof on BGP analysis where a few tools > using RIS and/or RV data were presented. I've no idea how useful those > tools actually are but if they are only presented at NANOG, I doubt that > many people in the RIPE region will hear that tehy are available, let > alone test drive them. > > Random idea: shouldn't we make a page on the ris website with links > to all the tools that we know of. On the page, we can also put a > bit of text inviting people to send us links if they develop tools and > tell them that we'd be happy to announce new entries to the RIPE > mailing lists. This will give the developpers more exposure for > their tools and make it easier for the community to find all tools > based on the RIS. > > At the same time, I think > > http://www.ripe.net/projects/ris/docs/analysis.html I think it's a good idea to put a link from our page. Will do it. BTW, UCLA group asked people to fill up a survey about which purpose people use data, what kind of improvement they need for data collection and so. Dan Massey who is doing survey. He promised to let us know when he gets back the forms. Arife > > Deserves an entry in the left column. > > Henk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net > RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk > P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 > 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 > The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Look here junior, don't you be so happy. > And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad. (Tom Verlaine) -- Arife Vural SED, RIPE NCC From henk at ripe.net Tue Oct 25 22:58:02 2005 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 22:58:02 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Tools using the RIS In-Reply-To: <200510250256.j9P2ub5P010391@birch.ripe.net> References: <200510250256.j9P2ub5P010391@birch.ripe.net> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051025225159.02cec040@localhost> At 04:56 25/10/2005, Rene Wilhelm wrote: > > Arife and I just sat through a bof on BGP analysis where a few tools > > using RIS and/or RV data were presented. I've no idea how useful those > > tools actually are but if they are only presented at NANOG, I doubt that > > many people in the RIPE region will hear that tehy are available, let > > alone test drive them. > > > > Random idea: shouldn't we make a page on the ris website with links > > to all the tools that we know of. > >That's one thing, but what I think the RIPE community (operators) would >really like is for the RIS service to be expanded with tools we consider best, >as was done with BGPlay. Operators don't have time to investigate the >work done by researchers in various universities, they need hands on >tools working on the full set of RIS data. In principle I agree, but I do see two problems here: * We're not operators, so it will be hard for us to judge if a tool is valuable or not. And I certainly don't want to label tools as "not useful". * If we support a tool, then we should be fairly certain that it will exist for a while. I.e. it is not a student's project where the student has gone on, that suddenly disappears or is not supported. For BGPlay we did check that the Rome group would continue to develop it. So, I think we should be neutral here and just list what is available. However, when we insert a link, we can always ask the authors to post to the lists, introduce the tool and ask for feedback. If there is a good product, people will pick it up. Henk >With the large number of peers RIS has now, any query via the RIS cgis >yields an overwhelming amount of data. RIS could sure do with some >intermediate, higher level, overview of the results. > >BGPinspect e.g. starts with a nice summary (graphical and in text) >before listing the raw results. (http://bgpinspect.merit.edu/) > >-- Rene > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look here junior, don't you be so happy. And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad. (Tom Verlaine) From wilhelm at ripe.net Wed Oct 26 03:39:08 2005 From: wilhelm at ripe.net (Rene Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:39:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [ris-int] Tools using the RIS In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051025225159.02cec040@localhost> References: <200510250256.j9P2ub5P010391@birch.ripe.net> <6.2.3.4.2.20051025225159.02cec040@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > >That's one thing, but what I think the RIPE community (operators) would > >really like is for the RIS service to be expanded with tools we consider best, > >as was done with BGPlay. Operators don't have time to investigate the > >work done by researchers in various universities, they need hands on > >tools working on the full set of RIS data. > > In principle I agree, but I do see two problems here: > > * We're not operators, so it will be hard for us to judge if a tool > is valuable or not. And I certainly don't want to label tools > as "not useful". > > * If we support a tool, then we should be fairly certain that it will > exist for a while. I.e. it is not a student's project where the student > has gone on, that suddenly disappears or is not supported. For > BGPlay we did check that the Rome group would continue to develop it. > > So, I think we should be neutral here and just list what is available. Of course, listing the tools on the RIS website is good, as it might help raise awareness. And not every conceivable tool would be in scope for RIS to support directly. But with a "user" hat on, I'd say RIS could use something which gives summarized/aggregate information. We have so many peers on more than a dozen RRCs that users easily can get lost. Unless you are looking for something specific, it can be hard to mine all the available data. I see your point regarding continued support, so maybe RIPE NCC should take inspiration from the work done in the research community (e.g. BGPinspect) and use that in expanding the available tools for looking at RIS data. Another idea might be to run some sort of survey of our own, how people use RIS, what they'd like to see added, worked on. Post it to routing-wg at ripe.net to reach all in the RIPE community (most of nanog just seem to default to routeviews) -- Rene From henk at ripe.net Wed Oct 26 18:54:44 2005 From: henk at ripe.net (Henk Uijterwaal) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:54:44 +0200 Subject: [ris-int] Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: *TTM and DNS root-server K mirror*] Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051026185306.02daeec8@localhost> Hi Arife, (Catching up on email...). Here are the contact details of Milton, who is setting up the RIS and TTM stuff @ LACNIC. For the RIS, they bought a Dell identical to the ones we use as RRC's. I said that we'd send them a CD image and install the box. Can you get in touch with him and work out the details? Henk >X-Recipient: >Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:24:09 -0300 >From: mkaoruka at nic.br >To: Henk Uijterwaal >Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: *TTM and DNS root-server K mirror*] >User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.2) >X-Originating-IP: 193.0.9.230 >X-RIPE-Spam-Level: >X-RIPE-Spam-Tests: BAYES_50,NO_REAL_NAME >X-RIPE-Spam-Status: N 0.032738 / 0.0 >X-RIPE-Signature: 8f773370b54d6b248a605d7f2edfb20b >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to >8bit by birch.ripe.net id j9CDOCgL018315 > >Quoting Milton Kaoru Kashiwakura : > >Dear Henk, > >As I was told to you, the GPS import process will take about 4 months. > >About RIS project, we bought the equipment. What >is the next step to install the >equipment in NAP at S?o Paulo (the name is PTTMetro-S?o Paulo)? > >Regards, > >Milton. > > >>Dear Henk, >> >>>>>We have same dificulties to import GPS >>>>>directly from Trimble, so we need help from >>>>>you. Could you send to us a Proform Invoice >>>>>(by e-mail and original) including six GPS kit and six RIPE card ? >>>Please see the attachment. Let me know if you need a copy with my >>>signature and I'll fax it to you. >> >>It isn't necessary. >> >>Thank you. >> >>Regards, >> >>Milton. >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look here junior, don't you be so happy. And for Heaven's sake, don't you be so sad. (Tom Verlaine)