[ris-int] Announcing new AS-set stuffing experiments?

Hi ris-int,

since nanog's reaction to my post explaining our AS-set stuffing 
techniques generated fewer flames than expected, I was thinking of 
announcing AS-set stuffing experiments over IPv4 today or tomorrow.

I would start with an experiment to determine how far large AS-sets 
penetrate into the Internet. Idea: announce progressively longer AS-sets 
containing only AS 12654 (so AS-paths like 12654 {n * 12654}) and see if 
the large AS-sets survive all the way to the RRCs or not. This would:

a) provide results we need
b) eliminate some opposition by showing that large AS-sets are safe
c) not irritate people because we're only using our own ASn

The values of n would be 5, 10, 20, 50, 75, 100. This is well below the 
safety limit we have seen with Ciscos (254).

Once that is done, I would announce other experiments using other 
people's ASes, saying that people can opt-out if they don't want their 
AS to appear.

Thoughts?


Cheers,
Lorenzo

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Lorenzo Colitti                              Ph.D student
Computer Networks research group      Roma Tre University
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