[ris-int] Fw: NCC#2004081420 [RIPE beacon request!]
Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE NCC) henk at ripe.net
Mon Aug 23 12:09:45 CEST 2004
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Matthew Williams wrote: > If we have the address space available, shouldn't we just go ahead and > help him out? Providing he makes the appropriate references when the > results are published, of course ;) As we discussed this morning: yes, let's just do this for a month or two. Henk > > Cheers, > Matthew > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ris-int-admin at ripe.net [mailto:ris-int-admin at ripe.net] > > On Behalf Of RIS > > Sent: 16 August 2004 12:40 > > To: ris-int at ripe.net > > Subject: [ris-int] Fw: NCC#2004081420 [RIPE beacon request!] > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > What do you think about the following request? It looks he is > > asking to extend our anycast failover scenario to more RRCs. > > > > After discussing with him what kind of patterns he needs, we > > can use same prefix or we can use one of the free Beacon Prefixes. > > > > Arife > > > > ----- Begin forwarded message ----- > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:39:14 -0400 > > From: "Hitesh Ballani" <hitesh at cs.cornell.edu> > > To: <ris at ripe.net> > > Subject: NCC#2004081420 RIPE beacon request! > > Message-Id: > > <81224EA6DDA07C43BC7555E32401029E054219 at EXCHVS2.cs.cornell.edu> > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if you could spare a beacon for the following > > experiment: At the moment, one of your beacons > > (184.108.40.206/24) at advertised from 2 locations - LINX and > > AMS-IX. An interesting question is to study anycast fail-over > > time from an end user perspective - i.e given that the > > advertisement is withdrawn from AMS-IX at a particular > > instant, how long is it before convergence is reached and > > packets from a node, which were earlier being routed to > > AMS-IX, are routed to LINX. I tried running this experiment > > from a bunch of nodes on Planetlab but I have not been able > > to locate any node whose packets are routed to AMS-IX and so, > > I am never able to analyze the convergence time (for that > > matter, even nodes in Netherlands have their packets routed > > to LINX). Here, "packets being routed to LINX" implies that > > periodic traceroutes from my Planetlab sites show so. This is > > important to me as I am currently working an a proxy based > > deployment model for IP anycast and so anycast failover time > > through BGP is critical for me (see > > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/People/francis/pias.pdf > > and > > http://www.cs.cornell.edu/People/francis/pias/pias-worlds.pdf > > for details!). As a matter of fact we are in the process of > > obtaining 3 /22 blocks from ARIN for this very purpose - > > however, given the long drawn nature of that process, I > > thought it would be nice if I could use your advertisement > > infrastructure to answer some niggling questions which are > > critical for the success of our proposal. > > > > I was wondering if it would be possible for me to get a > > beacon to be advertised from more locations (ideally, from > > America(RRC08), Europe(a number of locations), and > > Asia(RRC06)). While a beacon being advertised from 2 > > locations would suffice for the above experiment, but > > advertisements from more than 2 locations would allow me to > > look at other stuff such as - How good is IP anycast at > > selecting nearby locations? Ideally, when a node sends out a > > packet to a anycast location, it should be routed to the > > destination which is closest - but with the policy based > > nature of BGP, it is not clear if it does. Such an experiment > > would make more sense with greater number of advertising > > locations. I tried determining answers to these questions > > using the anycasted root servers and the servers belonging to > > the AS-112 project but the hierarchical nature of their > > deployment prevents me from coming to any conclusions. While > > the above description may sound as if I am looking for just > > an end-user analysis, but I will also be looking at BGP > > updates for the anycast prefix to determine if advertising a > > prefix from many locations has an adverse impact on the > > visibility of the prefix due to reasons such as route flap dampening. > > > > If the above description sounds terribly confusing, I will be > > glad to provide additional details about the experiments I > > plan to run. Also, if such an arrangement is possible, I will > > plan out the detailed A/W pattern and the sites involved. > > > > Thanks, > > Hitesh > > ------ End forwarded message ------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk P.O.Box 10096 Singel 258 Phone: +31.20.5354414 1001 EB Amsterdam 1016 AB Amsterdam Fax: +31.20.5354445 The Netherlands The Netherlands Mobile: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. (David Brent).
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