[ripe-list] LIR and Member Agreements

Dear Denis,
Dear Fellow Members,
Dear all,

First of all thanks a lot to Denis for all his work, I imagine it must have taken hours.
We, the board and the NCC will follow up on it and will not just have a look at the content itself but also look into how did we end up in this situation in the first place.
We will come back to the mailing list after the legal evaluation is conducted and also report on this at the next RIPE Meeting.

Regarding the CoC aspect of this emails, we the board did not read Hans Petters comments as shutting down the conversation or policing anyone and we would not have allowed that.

Best regards and please keep a respectful discussion in this challenging times.

Christian Kaufmann
Chairman of the NCC Executive Board

> On 31. Jan 2022, at 20:58, Hans Petter Holen <hph at ripe.net> wrote:
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> Dennis,
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> Since you are a working group chair I am making this response in public.
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> Thank you very much for your feedback on the LIR and Member Agreements.
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> I do welcome constructive feedback and suggestions for improvements.
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> I will not comment on your email right now, now but I will, however, point you to the RIPE Code of Conduct.
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> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-766
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> I read your characterisations of the document, as
> "This is probably one of the worst»
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> as well as numerous others characterisations I will refrain from quoting, though out the document as completely unnecessary.
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> They are not helping everyone to feel safe and included.
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> Your choice of language does in my opinion, not adhere to the following principles from the Code of Conduct:
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> • Being considerate and showing empathy towards others, especially when disagreeing or raising issues
> • Giving/receiving feedback or suggestions in a positive way.
> • Using welcoming and inclusive language
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> I would like to encourage a healthy discussion for improving the document, but you make it very difficult for me to do so, and I sincerely hope the tone of the discussion can be constructive.
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> Sincerely,
>
> Hans Petter Holen
> Managing Director
> RIPE NCC
>
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