This archive is retained to ensure existing URLs remain functional. It will not contain any emails sent to this mailing list after July 1, 2024. For all messages, including those sent before and after this date, please visit the new location of the archive at https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/[email protected]/
[ripe-list] Russia
- Previous message (by thread): [ripe-list] Russia
- Next message (by thread): [ripe-list] Russia
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
jeroen at hackersbescherming.nl
jeroen at hackersbescherming.nl
Sun Aug 14 14:11:20 CEST 2022
The problem in the sovereign nation of Ukraine which is created by the Russian leader (I refuse to believe that the majority of Russians stand behind this war) is basically the same as all the other BIG worldwide problems. Individuals have the power to make decisions that have an impact on others (think about the current Russian leader, but also governments, kingdoms, churches etc.). Most of us all want the same thing and that is to pass on a good live to those next to u like for example your children. Humans will have to start acting as one instead of acting as Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans, Chinese, Americans and all the other territorial groups/countries etc. Without acting as one, mankind is basically doomed! The world can be a better place, but to get back at your question, RIPE isn't capable of interferring with the war (this problem is to big for a single organisation). The only thing we all can do is look at your local leaders and kick their arses for not solving the above. The problems are getting worser by the minute and leaders only try to keep the problems outside of their borders. We shouldn't wanna have leaders like that and I surely don't want any borders at all since that creates the "It's not my problem answer" and in turn that makes it impossible to solve certain big problems like overpopulating, the fight for land and resources etc etc. We need a good code to live by instead of individuals that have the power to tell how things are going to be. We all should remember that we come into this world with nothing and we also leave with nothing, but we leave behind a mess for those that stay behind when we have left! Is that what u all want for your children? I'm sorry if this is a bit off-topic but it's still all about abuse! Kind regards, Jeroen -----Original Message----- From: ripe-list <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of Ronald F. Guilmette Sent: zondag 14 augustus 2022 00:02 To: ripe-list at ripe.net Subject: [ripe-list] Russia An interesting observation, and a question: Nearly six months ago now, on February 24th of this year, Russia began a "special military operation" against the sovereign nation of Ukraine. Since that time, fully three quarters of the member nations of the United Nations voted to condemn this unprovoked military action, and numerous nations in both Europe and all around the world have adopted extreme sanctions against Russia in response it its actions in Ukraine. These sanctions cover the gamut of economically important trade relations, including energy, banking, and high-technology goods. Despite all of the foregoing, I have just checked the archives for this mailing list for the past six months and it appears that in all of these past six months there has not even been so much as a single mention of Russia or the Ukraine War, or the ongoing threats coming out of Russia against NATO nations, EU nations, and European nations generally. Why? Are all members of the Internet community in the RIPE region so reluncant to even mention the word "Russia" because you all hope to just keep doing business as usual, even as Europe is plunged into the most destructive and deadly military conflict since the Second World War? Are all of you so completely focused on your bottom lines that you can turn a blind eye to the daily slaughter of innocent civilians, including children, in Ukraine? To put it another way: What exactly *is* the excuse of the RIPE region membership as it does its level best to pretend that there isn't even a European war going on? The best analogy I can think of is the Swiss during the NAZI era. It appears that, As long as the gold keeps coming in, everybody's happy. Regards, rfg P.S. I fully expect this post will be censored, because apparently nobody in Europe wants to even talk about all of the helpful network interconnections that are being supplied by EU/NATO nations to Russia, even after six months of unprovoked carnage and more than 10,000 Ukrainian's dead and 10 million displaced. That's OK. The European Internet community can continue to pretend that nothing has happened, and go on with business as usual, but the world knows better, and history will not forget the self-serving cowardice of the RIPE community in this time of deadly conflict. -- To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://mailman.ripe.net/
- Previous message (by thread): [ripe-list] Russia
- Next message (by thread): [ripe-list] Russia
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]