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Carlos Friaças
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Thu Nov 25 15:25:16 CET 2021
Hi, Afaik, just the dutch court system, if anyone wants to enter that path....... Carlos On Thu, 25 Nov 2021, Cynthia Revström via ripe-list wrote: > Or maybe I am mistaken and we actually have RIPE PDP courts and police to enforce these laws and I have just missed them. > -Cynthia > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 1:42 PM Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> wrote: > Can you please stop calling it law?It is NOT a law! > > -Cynthia > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 1:41 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote: > > That?s my point, we are actually writing ?our law? > > > > > > El 25/11/21 13:39, "ripe-list en nombre de Cynthia Revström via ripe-list" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de ripe-list at ripe.net> escribió: > > > > But this is not law, it is a procedural document, and procedural documents can include suggestions even if national laws often don't. > > > > The argument that it can't contain suggestions just because normal national laws often don't, is extremely silly. > > > > -Cynthia > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 1:36 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote: > > That?s my point, we are actually writing ?our law? > > > > > > > > Saludos, > > Jordi > > @jordipalet > > > > > > > > El 25/11/21 13:34, "Cynthia Revström" <me at cynthia.re> escribió: > > > > Yes but this is NOT law as Sander said, we are not writing a law here. > > This is a procedural document in a community, not a law. > > > > -Cynthia > > > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 1:30 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list <ripe-list at ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi Sander, > > Just count how many proposals have reached consensus even if they have not got a previous discussion in the list. Is a matter of numbers. > > Law != suggestions, law must be strict and avoid as much as possible subjective interpretations. > > > El 25/11/21 13:17, "ripe-list en nombre de Sander Steffann" <ripe-list-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de sander at steffann.nl> escribió: > > Jordi, > > > 4) The text about the "idea" is wrong and untrue. Past experience doesn't show that. > > No, *your* past behaviour doesn't show that. You just dumping policy proposals on a mailing list without discussing the idea first is probably one of the reasons why this paragraph is included, and I > STRONGLY support it. > > > There have been many policy proposals that didn't followed that process and they are actual policies. The PDP is a set of rules, strict rules of a process, not "rules and suggestions". We can't mix > rules and suggestions in a formal PDP text. > > Yes we can, we are not writing law. > > Cheers, > Sander > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-list > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty > authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. 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