Proposed new working group: Collaboration

I find the use of public sector, as in
"The Collaboration Working Group is a forum for discussion focusing on
collaboration between the private and public sectors on Internet
matters."
somewhat strange and perhaps misleading.

My (not insignificant) country has a public and a private sector, and the former
has grown steadily over the past 10 years, encompassing a wide variety of
services and businesses.  To me, public sector means state owned, state run,
answerable to ministers, as opposed to private sector, run by a board of
directors, answerable to share holders.

Is this really what you mean?  I suspect not.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrik Fältström" <patrik at frobbit.se>
To: <ripe-list at ripe.net>
Cc: "Marin Boyle" <martin.boyle at nominet.org.uk>; "Maria Häll"
<maria.hall at enterprise.ministry.se>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: Proposed new working group: Collaboration


After input from a number of people (thanks) and discussion with the
proposed working group chairs, here is a new version of the proposed
charter. Changes to the charter specifically include talking about
what this working group is *not* to discuss.

I have heard indirectly that some individuals are not happy with the
name of the wg. I am not married to this name. It was just something I
came up with as we agree we should NOT call it "enhanced cooperation".
If not anyone comes up with a better name, I propose we live with this
for now, and then change the name if someone comes up with something
better. I do not personally want this discussion on what the name is
block the creation of the wg. We need it, me thinks, in Dubai.

     Patrik, holder of the pen


Collaboration Working Group

Suggested chairs:

   Martin Boyle, Nominet
   Maria Häll, Swedish Government


The RIPE community decision-making processes are open to anyone,
meaning that anyone with an interest can suggest policy, take part in
reviewing documents and participate on mailing lists and at RIPE
Meetings. To encourage participation from people and organisations
outside the traditional RIPE community, a number of special outreach
programs have been developed, including a series of "Governmental
Roundtable Meetings", at which RIPE community members and government
representatives can meet and discuss common areas of interest.
Government representatives participate in RIPE Meetings, and the RIPE
NCC actively reaches out to governments and others in the public
sector to inform them on issues related to the RIPE community and
engage them on issues related to RIPE and RIPE NCC activities.

The Collaboration Working Group is a forum for discussion focusing on
collaboration between the private and public sectors on Internet
matters. This kind of collaboration has taken on increased prominence
in recent years, as the wider Internet community strives to ensure
that all voices are heard and the interests of all parties are
considered. Fostering more open dialogue between all stakeholders is
vital to ensuring the continued stability of the Internet.

The working group discusses the following:

1. Topics raised by working group participants that are of interest to
both the public and private sectors. Topics are NOT to overlap with
issues discussed in other working groups. This working group should
complement the other working groups.

2. The RIPE NCC's current outreach activities will be reported, and
the RIPE NCC will seek advice and guidance on future activities. This
to make the discussions more focused as the current only forum is the
ripe-list at ripe.net
  mailing list.

3. The working group will develop and clarify the RIPE community's
position on issues that are of relevance to the public sector or on
which a community position has been sought. These discussions are to
be more focused in a working group targeted for these kind of
discussions.

4. The working group will be responsible for maintenance of the RIPE
Document produced by the Enhanced Cooperation Task Force, describing
the RIPE community, existing policy development processes and outreach
programs. This working group does explicitly NOT have change control
over the PDP itself, just change control of the document that describe
it.

The working group is also an important channel through which the RIPE
community can communicate with others in the "Information Society".
The chairs are not to become special "Ambassadors" for RIPE. Their
role is the same as other wg chairs at RIPE, which implies they of
course could be asked now and then what the status of the wg is. The
process by which RIPE and RIPE NCC respectively coordinate with other
bodies (such as NRO) and communicate (mostly via RIPE NCC or the chair
of RIPE) is not changing by creation and existence of this wg.