From ncc at ripe.net Thu Oct 2 16:08:10 2003 From: ncc at ripe.net (Nick Hyrka) Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:08:10 +0200 Subject: RIPE 46 Meeting Report Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20031002154321.03b1bec0@mailhost.ripe.net> (Apologies for duplicate mails.) RIPE 46 Meeting Report Dear Colleagues: The RIPE 46 Meeting was held from 1 - 5 September 2003 at the Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. There were a total of 307 attendees comprised of the RIPE NCC membership, the RIPE community and government representatives. Attendees also included representatives from APNIC, ARIN, AfriNIC, LACNIC and ICANN. HIGHLIGHTS ========== Highlights of RIPE 46 included the open discussion on the services of the RIPE NCC during the first session of the RIPE NCC Services Working Group; a presentation on current RIPE NCC services and plans for 2004 by Axel Pawlik, Managing Director, RIPE NCC; an AfriNIC update; and an update on the changes to Test Traffic Measurement. The European Operators Forum (EOF) featured a full-day tutorial on Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) and ENUM that included an overview of current technologies and a focus on practical deployment aspects such as gateways, security, provisioning and use of the new ENUM standards. Geoff Huston, Telstra, gave a presentation on IPv4 Address Lifetime Expectancy. The RIPE NCC would like to thank SURFnet, BIT, FLAG Telecom and KPN EuroRings for the support they provided to the meeting. SUMMARY ======== ADDRESS POLICY ============== - Hans Petter Holen, Chair, requested community involvement to help revise ripe-152 ("Charging by Local Internet Registries") if necessary. - The RIPE NCC will resubmit the IPv4 policy document for community review. - There was a discussion on PI/PA issues and whether the distinction is still valid. - It was agreed that a more formal process was needed for the policy development process. Address Policy Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#ap DATABASE ======== - Wilfried Woeber, Chair, will co-ordinate with the RIPE NCC to prepare a document summarising the basic assumptions about the use of the RIPE Database. - "status:" attribute values will change. Current efforts aim at consistency between the RIRs and having easy to understand values. - The organisation object proposal received positive feedback from the working group, with suggestions for other features. - The RIPE NCC will implement X.509 authentication before the next RIPE Meeting. Database Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#db TEST TRAFFIC MEASUREMENTS (TTM) ========================= - As of 1/1/2004 changes will be made to the TTM service contract: Fees will be lowered, all data will be made public with lightweight Acceptable Use Policy (AUP). - Bandwidth measurements: tests showed that results are not conclusive enough so the TTM service will wait before delivering this new product. TTM Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#tt ANTI-SPAM ========= - Rodney Tillotson, Chair, will post a proposal to the Anti-Spam mailing list regarding methods to improve finding abuse contacts in the RIPE Database. Anti-Spam Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#anti-spam IPv6 === - The 6BONE phase-out was discussed. The next milestone will be 01/01/2004 when new allocations stop. - Discussion on the separation of the identifier and locater functions of IP addresses in regards to IPv6 multihoming. IPv6 Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#ipv6 TECHSEC ======== - Community feedback was requested on the requirements needed to secure large scale IP infrastructure especially around CLI interface requirements. - The RIPE NCC presented a report on DNSSec status, DISI achievements since RIPE 45 and the impact of signing on zone size. - George Jones, Mitre, gave a presentation on operational security requirements including the history and current status of the requirements, related work, next steps and milestones. - Baiba Kaskina, TERENA, gave a presentation on Euro CSIRT developments that included details on the CSIRT Task Force, the countries involved, the projects and deliverables. - NLNetLab presented an update on Fonkey and PKI-related developments in IETF. TechSec Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#techsec EIX == - Support was expressed for aligning and harmonising IPv6 address space policy regarding IXPs with other RIRs and existing IPv4 policies. - Reports were presented by 11 European IXPs in Europe that showed a trend of steady growth, use of GE instead of FE and wide deployment of IPv6. - Discussion of the Inter-Provider Traffic Analyzer that uses past data and statistical calculations to detect anomalies in traffic patterns. - EIX presentations were given on the anycast deployments of the "F" and "K" root servers by ISC and the RIPE NCC. EIX Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#eix DN* === - From the merging of the former DNS Working Group and DNR Forum it was concluded that one working group is sufficient to deal with everything related to Domain Names. A new name/charter will be discussed on the mailing list. - Jaap Akkerhuis, DN* Co-Chair, will organise a "DNS Related Issues" document. - Peter Koch, DN* Co-Chair, talked about how firewall vendors could make mistakes handling DNS communication issues. DN* Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#dn RIPE NCC SERVICES ================ - Axel Pawlik noted that the RIPE NCC will present more details in next year's RIPE NCC budget. - There were comments on the current RIPE NCC services, whether they benefit the entire community and whether a 'pay per service' system could be an option. - There was discussion about the need for a more transparent evaluation of RIPE NCC activities and how they benefit the community. RIPE NCC Services Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/presentations/#ncc TUTORIALS ========= - The RIPE NCC staff presented the RIPE NCC IP Request Tutorial. It explained address space assignment and allocation procedures in the RIPE NCC region: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/tutorials/ip-request/ - A full-day tutorial on VoIP and ENUM was presented during the European Operators Forum (EOF). For more information about the EOF at RIPE 46 see: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/eof.html RIPE MEETING WEBCASTING ======================= - The third phase of RIPE Meeting webcasting trials was held at RIPE 46. Recordings of certain sessions from RIPE 46, including the Plenary, have been archived and can be accessed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/webcast.html HOSTMASTER CONSULTATION CENTRE (HCC) ==================================== - The RIPE NCC Hostmaster Consultation Centre was open at RIPE 46, allowing RIPE NCC Members to discuss issues relating to their business directly with RIPE NCC Hostmasters. Later consultation hours, as introduced at RIPE 44, were continued. "MEET & GREET" =============== - The RIPE NCC's "Meet & Greet" was available for first-time RIPE Meeting attendees at RIPE 46. "Meet & Greet" introduces newcomers to the meetings, to key attendees of the RIPE community and to social events throughout the week. More information can be obtained by contacting the RIPE NCC's Pepa Tejedor Carnicero at . RIPE 46 REFERENCE PAGE ====================== - A complete list of RIPE 46 sessions, tutorials and presentations can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-46/index.html RIPE NCC GENERAL MEETING ======================= - The RIPE NCC General Meeting 2003 was held Friday, 5 September 2003, adjacent to the RIPE 46 Meeting, at the Hotel Krasnapolsky in Amsterdam. For the highlights from the RIPE NCC General Meeting 2003, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/about/gm/gm2003/highlights.html RIPE 47 ====== - RIPE 47 will be held in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, from 26 - 30 January 2004. Information on RIPE 47 will soon be made available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-47/ NEW LOCAL INTERNET REGISTRIES (LlRs) - PLEASE NOTE LIRs who signed up after 1 January 2002 are entitled to two (2) free tickets to attend the next RIPE Meeting. The tickets cover the meeting fee only and do not apply to the RIPE dinner, travel or hotel accommodation. More information on the new LIR tickets can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/new-lir.html For more information, contact . END From contact at ripe.net Wed Oct 8 16:07:07 2003 From: contact at ripe.net (Membership Liason Officer) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 16:07:07 +0200 Subject: RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, Dubai, 7-9 December 2003 Message-ID: <20031008160707.609ec6d5.contact@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC is pleased to announce the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, to be held 7-9 December 2003 at the Metropolitan Palace Hotel, Dubai, U.A.E. Registration for the Regional Meeting opens 8 October 2003. Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible to cover their own travel and accommodation costs. To register, please see: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/dubai-reg The RIPE NCC Regional Meeting will focus on Internet resource allocation and Internet management issues including: - How to participate in and influence IP address management policy-making; - The industry self-regulatory open structures and processes used by the RIPE NCC and the global Internet community; - Are we running out of IPv4 address space? - Root name server operations: who is involved? - Domain Name management on the Internet; - The internationalisation of Domain Names. The Regional Meeting draft agenda can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/dubai-2003/plan.html RIPE and the RIPE NCC will explain their roles in the administration of the Internet infrastructure as well as specific aspects in managing and operating the Internet infrastructure. The discussions will be directly related to the particular needs and concerns surrounding these issues in the Middle East region. The current meeting agenda reflects our intentions. However, it requires active participation from the local community to discuss specific issues of the region. The RIPE NCC has reserved several presentation opportunities for those with local knowledge of Internet management and operational issues affecting the Middle East. If your organisation wishes to provide a presentation or suggest a relevant topic, please send your proposal by e-mail to: The RIPE NCC is one of four Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) that provide Internet resource allocation, registration services and co-ordination activities that support the operation of the Internet globally. The RIPE NCC is an independent, not-for-profit membership organisation that provides services to members in its service region currently covering Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and African countries located north of the equator. Any further questions about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East can be sent directly to: . Regards, Sabrina Wilmot Membership Liaison Officer RIPE NCC From leo at ripe.net Mon Oct 13 10:17:25 2003 From: leo at ripe.net (leo vegoda) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:17:25 +0200 Subject: Call for volunteers: editorial group to revise "Charging by Local Internet Registries" document Message-ID: Dear Colleagues, Last month at RIPE 46 the RIPE Address Policy Working Group (AP WG) discussed the RIPE document "Charging by Local Internet Registries" (ripe-152). The document was published in 1996 and describes "charging for services by Internet registries and indicates acceptable practice for such charging". It can be found at: Particular attention was given to the statement that "registries may charge for their administrative and technical services, they may not charge for name space or address space as such; no unit cost or price tag can be attached to a domain name or to an IP address, public or private." It was agreed that an editorial group of volunteers from the community should be formed discuss the document and suggest changes to its text and content. A mailing list has been created for this discussion. The list is open to anyone wishing to participate. If you want to subscribe to the list you can do so via the web interface at: Additionally, a web archive of the discussion can be found at: Kind regards, -- leo vegoda RIPE NCC Registration Services Manager From hostcount at ripe.net Mon Oct 20 10:23:25 2003 From: hostcount at ripe.net (RIPE Hostcount Maintainer) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:23:25 +0200 Subject: RIPE Region Hostcount for September 2003 Message-ID: <200310200823.h9K8NPVZ002457@birch.ripe.net> Dear All, below is the hostcount for September 2003. The table shows a decrease since last month of over 420,000 (or 2,1%) to a total of around 19,800,000 hosts in the DNS in Europe and surrounding areas. The uk domain shows the highest increase for September with approximately 30,000 hosts more than in August. Background information and more statistics are available at http://www.ripe.net/hostcount/ - Brief Notes on this Hostcount - - The February, 2003 data was used for dk due to their having a corrupted count this month. - The May, 2003 data was used for ru due to problems with the remote collection. - Credits - I would like to thank all people who help me to create the hostcount every month by running a local count: ad Joan Marc Lauga am Hrant Dadivanyan at Gerhard Winkler be DNS-BE Registration Office ch Marcel Schneider cy Vasoula Papapetrou cz Jiri Orsag de Peter Koch dk DK Hostmaster es Fco. Sanchez Benavides fr hostmaster at nic.fr gr Dimitris Zisiadis ie Mike Norris is Marius Olafsson it Maurizio Martinelli Daniele Vannozzi li Marcel Schneider lt Daiva Tamulioniene lu Alain Frieden mk Goran Muratovski mt Robert Sultana no Havard Eidnes pl Mirek Luc pt Joao Pagaime ro Eugenie Staicut ru Andrey Dobrotsvetov sk Lubos Elias sm Maurizio Martinelli Daniele Vannozzi tr METU Hostcount Admin If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Kind regards, Lee Wilmot RIPE NCC RIPE DNS Hostcount Previous Count : Mon Sep 15 2003 This Count : Mon Oct 20 2003 CY SOA COUNTED DUPL REAL CHANGE ============================================================== ad 178 3052 242 2810 -3 ae 11222 79356 23378 55978 42 al 210 284 105 179 2 am 375 1184 647 537 -199 at 99088 400483 144235 256248 -25125 az 1346 1778 1216 562 2 ba 1678 10570 4326 6244 102 be 90867 387088 170409 216679 1067 bg 2229 49173 9696 39477 44 bj 54 884 54 830 271 by 1430 7907 3494 4413 -2 ch 197009 893426 358866 534560 3011 ci 634 4269 492 3777 0 cm 97 614 143 471 6 cv 116 368 315 53 0 cy 1624 7312 1756 5556 65 cz 132848 494268 213136 281132 4240 de 3915385 14264522 11841400 2423122 -54157 dj 995 1992 1377 615 10 dk 71854 1121201 318223 802978 0 dz 160 1224 380 844 5 ee 12917 92827 28995 63832 723 eg 2456 5435 2212 3223 8 er 65 1182 142 1040 0 es 39239 813616 73355 740261 2071 fi 53009 1322243 86853 1235390 6680 fr 110085 2157309 510709 1646600 14230 ga 84 164 75 89 -1 gb 2 3 0 3 0 ge 1564 8900 4037 4863 769 gg 2072 3821 2202 1619 4 gh 121 479 100 379 7 gi 177 721 143 578 0 gl 1474 4255 1313 2942 -1 gm 571 1038 470 568 0 gn 58 528 157 371 0 gq 3 8 5 3 0 gr 56416 323062 134049 189013 7347 gw 1 2 0 2 0 hr 8973 57756 28112 29644 0 hu 80876 499045 161375 337670 3420 ie 24118 197241 46949 150292 1293 il 37565 537949 143878 394071 12269 im 578 1608 773 835 -254 ir 1400 6978 2828 4150 34 is 9442 165397 66768 98629 -1828 it 477064 1225212 622523 602689 -540 je 2155 3480 1762 1718 5 jo 1110 5664 2612 3052 -6 ke 1 4 0 4 0 kg 812 15923 3472 12451 56 kz 3654 968247 949534 18713 -86 lb 1463 9149 1986 7163 5 li 5572 12071 8567 3504 -247 lr 17 18 5 13 0 lt 13111 64285 11537 52748 648 lu 3963 7872 4521 3351 -3 lv 8514 114420 75788 38632 835 ma 2610 8654 5201 3453 19 mc 708 1411 913 498 2 mk 2654 4796 1322 3474 23 mt 1666 10651 3054 7597 33 ng 409 2220 1163 1057 1 nl 787011 5888291 2890710 2997581 -366463 no 122023 712661 149484 563177 1813 pl 149231 1102547 344467 758080 3791 pt 17852 143353 30910 112443 -78595 qa 107 616 395 221 0 ro 18695 82095 34131 47964 3035 ru 218544 1324411 907727 416684 0 sa 3937 20072 3910 16162 3083 se 86085 1182285 266120 916165 -1648 si 12585 60285 19560 40725 981 sk 62207 249465 153324 96141 3140 sl 7 279 2 277 0 sm 944 2928 1330 1598 -42 so 1 10 6 4 0 su 2610 358610 330379 28231 -58 sy 4 15 4 11 0 td 74 22 10 12 0 tj 183 1060 751 309 0 tm 294 852 315 537 0 tn 37 458 210 248 1 tr 30693 280886 53351 227535 -129 ua 53081 269907 189037 80870 589 ug 855 3039 652 2387 4 uk 1934449 7161909 3985029 3176880 30259 va 2 9 0 9 0 ye 177 308 171 137 3 yu 16262 39636 20048 19588 149 ============================================================== 90 9016098 45272608 25465383 19807225 -423190 From contact at ripe.net Mon Oct 20 17:12:47 2003 From: contact at ripe.net (Membership Liason Officer) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:12:47 +0200 Subject: RIPE NCC Dubai Meeting, Dec. 2003 - Reminder: Hotel Reservations Message-ID: <20031020171247.4dac9312.contact@ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, will be held 7 - 9 December 2003 at the Metropolitan Palace Hotel, Dubai, U.A.E. The meeting will focus on Internet Resource management issues specific to the Middle East. HOTEL RESERVATIONS: The RIPE NCC has arranged for a block of rooms to be held for meeting attendees at the Metropolitan Palace Hotel and the Metropolitan Hotel Sheikh Zayed Road, Dubai. There are a limited number of rooms available, so we strongly suggest you book early to avoid disappointment. For more information about these hotels, and to reserve a room, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/dubai-2003/hotel-information.html In addition to your hotel accommodation please remember to register for the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, at: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/dubai-reg Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible for covering their own travel and accommodation costs. Any further questions about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, can be sent directly to: . Regards, Sabrina Wilmot Membership Liaison Officer RIPE NCC From contact at ripe.net Wed Oct 29 15:37:45 2003 From: contact at ripe.net (Membership Liason Officer) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:37:45 +0100 Subject: RIPE NCC Dubai Meeting, Dec. 2003 - Updated Agenda Message-ID: <20031029153745.488620e0.contact@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, will be held 7 - 9 December 2003 at the Metropolitan Palace Hotel, Dubai, U.A.E. The meeting will focus on Internet Resource management issues. Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible for covering their own travel and accommodation costs. UPDATED AGENDA The agenda has been updated with more information about speakers and presentations. The preliminary list of speakers includes: - Rob Blokzijl (RIPE Chair) - Tim Mertens (CENTR) - Keith Mitchell (XchangePoint) - Axel Pawlik (RIPE NCC) - Phillip Smith (Cisco Systems) The Director General of APNIC, Paul Wilson, will also give a presentation on IPv4 address lifetime expectancy. For the full agenda, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/dubai-2003/plan.html The RIPE NCC has reserved several presentation opportunities for those with local knowledge of Internet management and operational issues affecting the Middle East. If your organisation wishes to provide a presentation or suggest a relevant topic, please send your proposal by e-mail to: . ATTENDEE LIST The attendee list is regularly updated with new registrations and is now available online at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/dubai-2003/attendees.html HOTEL RESERVATIONS: The RIPE NCC has arranged for a block of rooms to be held for meeting attendees at the Metropolitan Palace Hotel and the Metropolitan Hotel Sheikh Zayed Road, Dubai. There are a limited number of rooms available, so we strongly suggest you book early to avoid disappointment. For more information about these hotels, and to reserve a room, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/dubai-2003/hotel-information.html REGISTRATION To register for the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, please see: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/dubai-reg Any further questions about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Middle East, can be sent directly to: . Regards, Sabrina Wilmot Membership Liaison Officer RIPE NCC