[ripe-chair-discuss] Some observations and opinions.

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> From: ripe-chair-discuss <ripe-chair-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of
> Jim Reid
> Sent: Monday 16 July 2018 17:34
> To: Lars-Johan Liman <liman at netnod.se>
> Cc: RIPE Chair Discussion List <ripe-chair-discuss at ripe.net>
> Subject: Re: [ripe-chair-discuss] Some observations and opinions.
> 
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> > On 16 Jul 2018, at 17:02, Lars-Johan Liman <liman at netnod.se> wrote:
> >
> > However, I think there are few areas where I think we need to make
> > sure that there is consensus in the wider community.
> 
> I agree. The current proposal is very good and there's lots I like. Congrats to
> Anna and everyone else who helped put this together.

+1
 
> There's one omission though. I'd like the decision of the WG Chairs Collective
> (WGCC) to get endorsed by the RIPE Community. ie
> 
> 	NomCom recommends
> 	WGCC selects
> 	Community approves
> 
> This would give us a reasonable set of checks and balances that allows the
> community to retain overall control without getting bogged down in the
> implementation detail of the selection machinery.

I think, as there was on the only hand over, there must be acclamation from the community. The Plenary session of a RIPE meeting seems like the obvious place for this, given easy remote participation is possible.

However... I want to make a comment about the removal. Yes, the AA-WG did remove a Co-Chair, but it was such a complicated and torturous process that it moved us towards putting procedures in place for same. I believe, as the person on stage at the time, I can speak with some authority about how unpleasant it was and how I would prefer to never do it again. 

Now, I do not believe that we need a complicated procedure here, but I think I would like to see something like:

"If the Chair has lost the faith and trust of the community, then the community/RIPE meeting Plenary/something similar can ask them to step down. The Vice-Chair would then assume the Chairs duties while a new selection procedure takes place."

I think it is good governance to write this down, and it chimes with what has been described here, without getting into any procedural weeds.

Thanks,

Brian