[atlas] Why has probe growth stagnated?
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Hank Nussbacher
hank at efes.iucc.ac.il
Sat Mar 2 18:08:23 CET 2019
On 01/03/2019 16:14, Robert Kisteleki wrote: > Hello, > > On 2019-02-20 09:36, Gert Doering wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 06:52:28AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: >>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019, scg at gibbard.org wrote: >>> >>> ASN coverage is just 5.6%. That really doesn't give a complete global >>> view for stats. Rather than return money to LIRs every year in their >>> bill, why not state that any LIR running an active probe within their ASN >>> will get a 50Euro credit on their bill? That alone would increase ASN >>> footprint coverage quickly within RIPE. >> I like that suggestion :-) >> >> (Not sure how that will pan out if we reach 50% of all LIRs, but to get >> from 5% to 20%, it might definitely be an idea) > Interesting idea indeed! > > Let me try to address a few points that were mentioned before, perhaps > by providing some background information along the way. > > The growth rate is indeed slower than in the early days. As with > everything, there's no single reason for this. On one hand we had > shortage of hardware probes (which is hopefully solved for the moment, > see: > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/alun_davies/new-ripe-atlas-version-4-probes/document_view_resolve). > On the other hand, it's harder to reach "uncovered" networks and as > someone mentioned before, the "the low hanging fruit being pretty > saturated". > > We measure ASN coverage compared to all ASN-s that announce anything at > all, so depending on how hard one wants to argue for having a probe "in > every AS", this may or may not need improvement. We're certainly > encouraging all our ambassadors and prospective hosts to deploy probes > where we don't have them yet. The current application process has a > built-in preference for new networks. > > For a few years now the procurement of new probes is funded exclusively > by sponsors. Therefore we'd be very happy to see more sponsors stepping up. > > Finally: the public graph about the number of users shows the total we > have so far (meaning users who interacted with RIPE Atlas while they > were logged in via RIPE Access). We can, if this is deemed useful, track > the number of recent users too (for some definition of recent). > > Regards, > Robert > And what about the idea to encourage greater ASN coverage by providing a discount on LIR membership for those who have at least one active ASN probe in their ASN? Regards, Hank
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