[atlas] Protocol/Technology testing?
Naiming Shen naiming at cisco.com
Mon Feb 13 20:36:32 CET 2012
thanks Carlos. attached the newer version of the draft (hasn't been posted), which is under discussion in the int-area list. Regards, - Naiming -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: trace-ping-ext-4.txt URL: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-atlas/attachments/20120213/e8a4cd64/attachment.txt> -------------- next part -------------- On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Carlos Pignataro wrote: > Fred, > > That is correct, RFC 4884 does not allow the use of the extensions in > Echo / Echo Reply ICMP messages. Moreover, RFC 4884 only defines the > "return path" extensions. > > However, draft-shen-traceroute-ping-ext was attempting to do just that > (among other thing or two) -- to allow extensions on a probe and ability > to use them with ICMP. > > Thanks, > > -- Carlos. > > On 2/12/2012 10:22 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> Question for you: >> >> RFC 4884 says that ICMP/ICMPv6 define an Echo Request/Reply message, but as I read it doesn't permit the use of that structure with the Echo Request or Reply. It seems like RFC 4884 would help in this context. >> >> For example, if Atlas Probes and their servers use NTP to synchronize time, an Echo Request could contain the time the message was sent, and the service could deduce one-way delay. The response could similarly include a timestamp, the probe could calculate one-way delay, and report the time and delta-time of that response in its next request. Additionally, the service could command a probe to additionally traceroute to another probe, and the probe could later report its experience. >> >> What would it take to facilitate the use of RFC 4884 extensions with ICMP/ICMPv6? >> >> >> On Feb 12, 2012, at 1:00 AM, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Are there any plans to extend the Atlas probe's functionality from simple Pings to more sophisticated testing? >>> >>> For example: >>> Can actual payloads be transferred (http, ftp, SMTP, NNTP etc.) and with which parameters? >>> Is encryption available (https, ssh, starttls, etc.)? >>> >>> Some countries and/or ISPs restrict what users can do. >>> >>> Currently, Iran is inhibiting all encrypted international connection. For the users on the ground this is horrible - no gmail, no yahoo, no online banking, no Tor network - no proivacy! >>> >>> Yet on the Atlas network everything seems to be fine, as pings still work. (However, only one of the six probes is online, the rest has been offline for weeks. And the one that is online was offline for weeks until a few days ago. I'm not sure what the issue is there.) >>> >>> It would be good to know if some protocols are not available in a certain jurisdiction. Of course, such tests could be done at a much lower rate than Pings - some maybe every hour, others every couple of hours. >>> >>> Then again, the probes might not be mighty enough? >>> >>> BR >>> Daniel AJ >>> >>> -- >>> Follow me on twitter @newstik http://twitter.com/newstik >>> >> >>