[RIPE Atlas Ambassadors] Deploying RIPE Atlas probes in more locations and networks

On 25/08/15 4:18 pm, dp at datasoftcomnet.com wrote:
> Hello all, 

Hi:

> Can someone share an elevator pitch on why an ISP or an organisation
> that is on 24/7 needs to put a probe in their network.

The elevator pitch we use is:
- You could benefit from accessing thousands of probes around the world
that can help you diagnose network problems or run monitoring better
than any company.
- You can help Internet researchers to do better research by having a
more complete picture of the Internet

> What are the benefits they would get? 
> Has someone prepared a case study.

Surely RIPE has material they can refer you to.

My employer is in both sides of the equation, as RIPE Atlas users for
operational and research, as well as probe hosts.

Cheers,

> 
> Regards DP 
> 9849111010. 
> 
> Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity and typos if any. 
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Emile Aben <emile.aben at ripe.net>
> Date: 25/08/2015 09:25 (GMT+05:30)
> To: Sebastian Castro <sebastian at nzrs.net.nz>
> Cc: ripe-atlas-ambassadors at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [RIPE Atlas Ambassadors] Deploying RIPE Atlas probes in
> more locations and networks
> 
> On 24/08/15 23:53, Sebastian Castro wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24/08/15 11:27 pm, Vesna Manojlovic wrote:
>>> Dear ambassadors,
>>
>> Hi Vesna:
>>
>>>
>>> You’ve helped us do a great job in distributing RIPE Atlas probes to
>>> many networks and regions of the world, but we still have work to do!
>>> There are a few ways to find out exactly where we need your help:
>>>
>>> 1) Networks with the most users and fewest probes
>>>
>>> In order to increase topological diversity, it would be good to "target"
>>> the users of the networks that don’t have a lot - or any - coverage.
>>>
>>> This RIPE Labs article lists the top 20 ASNs:
>>>
> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/improving-ripe-atlas-coverage-what-networks-are-missing
>>>
>>>
>>> Or you can see the raw-text table here, sorted by the network size:
>>> http://sg-pub.ripe.net/emile/atlas_eyeball_coverage.txt
>>>
>>
>> Emile's work is really valuable and much appreciated. Is it possible to
>> have a date of generation on that file? It seems to be the same as few
>> months ago, considering we have deployed probes in the last two months
>> that increase coverage.
> 
> This was a one-off, timestamp on the file says I did that on 26 June.
> I've just put a new one here:
> http://sg-pub.ripe.net/emile/atlas-coverage/
> 
>>> 2) Comparing population density with the distribution of RIPE Atlas
> probes
>>>
>>> Emile Aben used CartoDB to plot, population and probe density on the
>>> same map:
>>>
> https://emileaben.cartodb.com/viz/3caa5144-823e-11e4-8025-0e018d66dc29/public_map
>>>
>>>
>>> https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/distribution-of-ripe-atlas-probes
>>>
>>> 3) Comparing coverage between countries
>>>
>>> This map shows the percentage of probes per country:
>>> https://atlas.ripe.net/results/maps/density/
>>>
>>> Whichever method you choose, we trust your instincts and your knowledge
>>> of the local community to make the right decision and give probes to the
>>> best people!
>>
>> We have a different method, that uses address space to determine which
>> ASNs are relevant to cover.
>>
>> The eyeball method works for ISP that serve customers, but not for those
>> that provide transit. Our methodology, that picks a BGP table dump and
>> calculates the ratio of /24 versus number of probes helps us to have
>> more coverage and to quickly identify targets.
> 
> Heh. We had a discussion last week in the office which boiled down to
> pretty much what you describe here, as an alternative to 'eyeball' data.
> I expect more in this space soon :)
> 
> Cheers and many thanks to all our ambassadors for the great work they
> are doing!
> Emile
> 
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