[regional-russia] CS-2010 & 'Not my End User'

		Приветствую.

    Ответ Arne Kiessling из RIPE NCC, если кого-то  
еще интересует:

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> I failed to find any documents on your site except ripe-452, but
> ripe-452 describe cease of contractual relationship and there is no
> contract between end user and LIR right now.  I am actually not 'end
> user' but a LIR representative and probably have to inform our
> ex-end user about this ripe policy change and my question will be
> first question they ask me.

- The RIPE NCC recently published a procedure document describing the
  process for this: ripe-475, "Independent Internet Number Resources -
  Contractual Relationship Changes between sponsoring LIR and End
  User" which is available here:

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-475.html

> The question was: what exactly end user with PI address space and/or
> AS have to do when LIR
> choose 'Not my End User' in 'Independent Resources - Contractual
> Relationship'  form. Is
> there any complete instruction on RIPE site or end user should write
> letter to someone in RIPE
> or somebody in RIPE will contact end user in near future?

- The future sponsoring LIR can request to have the resources in
  question moved to their registry by sending an email to
  enduser-contract at ripe.net. They need to provide the following
  documents:

- End User Assignment Agreement between the LIR and their end user
  regarding the registration of the resources which complies with the
  requirements described in ripe-452, "Contractual Requirements for
  Provider Independent Resource Holders in the RIPE NCC Service
  Region"

- official Company Registration Documents of the end user’s
  organisation

If the end user can not find a sponsoring LIR for the resources they
hold the RIPE NCC will contact the end user directly in the future.

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И дополнение в ответ на просьбу  
процитировать письмо в рассылке:

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If you could also mention that end users with independent resources
have the following options:

- sign an End User Assignment Agreement with a sponsoring LIR of their
  choice (this does not mean end users have to sign a contract for
  connectivity or other services with the sponsoring LIR)

- become Direct Assignment User and sign an End User Assignment
  Agreement directly with the RIPE NCC

- become LIR

- renumber their network and return the resources

For those who attend the RIPE Regional Meeting in Moscow this week, we
will also have a Services Center and be able to answer your questions
there.

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On 02.09.2009, at 17:25, Sergey Budnevitch wrote:

> 		Приветствую.
>
>   Коллеги, подскажите где на сайте ripe'а  
> найти последовательность действий
> end user'а в случае, если LIR для ASN и PI блока  
> адресов пользователя выбрал
> вариант 'Not my End User', а ресурсы эти  
> действительно используются?
> В ripe-452 есть фраза "If the End User wishes to cease  
> their current contractual
> relationship, they must first have a new contractual relationship in  
> place with either
> another sponsoring LIR or else with the RIPE NCC.  In either case,  
> such contractual
> changes must be communicated to the RIPE NCC each time they occur."
> В нашем случае 'contractual relationship'  
> отсутствует, пользователю
> остается писать на деревню дедушке в  
> RIPE или есть более детальное
> описание процедуры заключения  
> прямого договора с RIPE NCC?

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