[ncc-services-wg] Dear Olga Syra and Paul BD, thank you for your correspondence and position, but I would like to start a discussion not about personalities, but about proposals, the transfer of IP addresses from Ukraine.

Федієнко Олександр Павлович wrote:

> If you read my answer, please note that I wrote absolutely nothing
> about actions. My proposal was precisely in the direction that RIPE
> NCC should develop the policies itself, and until such time as it
> does not have them, block transfers of IP addresses from the
> territory of Ukraine.

You have to understand that IP addresses are public, they are not the
property of Ukraine.

Now whether or not you like it, there are legitimate resource holders
in Kremlin-controlled territories that will migrate their LIRs to
Russian companies.

You also need to understand that the RIPE is a coordination center.
Technically, the Internet does not require the RIPE in order to
function. If the RIPE could no longer be trusted, the Internet would
organize to do without it. As such, the RIPE must retain its neutrality
in how it allocates and transfers resources.

> Paul BD, thanks for your replies, but any suggestions?

Just as Olha Sira said, I consider the current practices to be
reliable. I suggested that some cryptography could be used to sign off
resources eventually.

> I don't have the resources, but I believe that there are risks in
> transferring IP addresses, especially in occupied territories.

You earlier said that you already have such example cases. So please
give us the examples so we can study them.

I actually think that this happens very rarely.

Besides, this problem is inherent to the under deployment of IPv6 in
certain regions, including Ukraine. As such, if I were you, I would
be working on getting Ukraine on the IPv6 Internet.

You can ask Mr. Tulyev for your IPv6 connectivity. :)

>   Paul BD, tell me who exactly I called and threatened? :)

So far, quite a bunch of people on this mailing list who disagree with
you. That's without mentioning all the constructive things you say on
your Telegram channel. I have a full backup of it where the "delete
message" is neutralized.

> If we are talking about the text of Mr. Tulev, then he is fooling the
> society, and instead of being constructive, he continues to accuse
> that someone is threatening him. Maxim fled the country, so nobody is
> interested in his active life.

The threats to Mr. Tulyev are very real and can be found on public web
sites, including government sites such as the NKRZI's.