[ncc-services-wg] Measures to Protect Ukrainian Networks
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Артем Зубков
x-ray at kct.net.ua
Mon Dec 5 20:01:06 CET 2022
My transfer request also "stuck" in reality they are from me to me but in a different country, 6 weeks already :( On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:50 PM Олена Кушнір <kea at webpro.net.ua> wrote: > Good afternoon, Dear Colleagues and Olga > > I don't agree with you about " But there isn't direct contact with > Russians, who might force IP > holders to make unlawful transfers." > Contact can be with people in the occupied territories through an email > address. There are quite a few arguments for physical impact on people, > because horrors and violence occur in uncontrolled territories. > Also, the borders of occupied and unoccupied territories change every day. > I must also remind you *that open company registries are not available* > during wartime. That is why it is technically impossible to check the > legitimacy of the signatory when making transactions. > > Thanks to the RIPE NCC team for their work. > And we support temporary blocking of IP- transfers during the war. > > > _______________ > Best regards, > Olena Kushnir > > www.webpro.ua > > > 5 груд. 2022 р. о 12:24 Olha Sira <vasylevych at gmail.com> написав(ла): > > Dear Hans Petter Holen and Colleagues, > > It was an extremely good and balanced decision to continue IP address > transfers for companies based on Ukrainian Government-controlled > territories. > But it looks like a hidden ban exists. There haven't been any > accomplished transfers for Ukrainian IP holders since the RIPE 85 > meeting. > It leads to problems with the fulfillment of obligations to > counterparties and creates barriers in operating activities. > > Please note, that for Ukrainian Government-controlled territory the > danger and difficulties are rockets and drone attacks and electricity > outages, which cause absence of water and heating. > But there isn't direct contact with Russians, who might force IP > holders to make unlawful transfers. As was written in the previous > discussion, blocking transfers for the Ukrainian Government-controlled > territory does more harm than good. > > Your comprehension are greatly appreciated. > > Kind regards, > Olha Sira > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 3:26 PM Hans Petter Holen <hph+announce at ripe.net> > wrote: > > > Dear colleagues, > > At last week’s RIPE 85 meeting in Belgrade, the RIPE community discussed > ways to further protect the resources of Ukrainian networks. I want to > provide a brief summary of what we heard at RIPE 85 and outline what we > will be doing next. > > At the meeting, there seemed to be general support for the following > points: > > - Apply a temporary freeze on all transfers from Ukrainian networks until > a better solution can be found > - Implement a way for members concerned that they are at risk to lock > their resources and prevent them from being transferred for a set period of > time > - The RIPE NCC should be able to act on urgent matters without going > through the policy development process, especially as policy changes will > take several months to complete the RIPE PDP even if there is unanimous > support > - Ukrainian operators do not want government to take a more active role in > terms of approving registry updates > - The RIPE NCC should move on this matter with urgency > > However, we do note that there have been further comments on the mailing > lists arguing against a blanket freeze on transfers. > > As an immediate response, all transfer requests from Ukrainian networks > will be escalated to me until further notice. We will of course continue to > apply the highest levels of due diligence when reviewing these requests. > This will add some amount of delay, which I think is entirely appropriate > under the circumstances and given the seriousness of the concerns that have > been raised. > > This should be seen as a temporary measure which has the advantage of > being something we can apply straight away. RIPE NCC staff are currently > investigating additional short-term measures and we will update you on our > next steps after these have been discussed with the Executive Board. > > We will continue to follow all discussions that take place on the mailing > lists in the meantime. > > Kind regards > > Hans Petter Holen > Managing Director > RIPE NCC > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ncc-services-wg > -- С уважением, Артем КСТ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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