[ncc-services-wg] RIPE NCC and the Cloud: Draft Principles, Requirements and Strategy Framework

On Wed Sep 1, 2021 at 4:35 PM CEST, Randy Bush wrote:
> i like your general analysis of the situation. but i see private cloud
> as unnecessarily complex and expensive, especially if you say openstack.
> a sailboat is a hole in the water in which you throw money; openstack is
> a hole in your organization in which you throw engineers, and expensive
> ones.

For what it's worth, I actually dislike OpenStack and Kubernetes, and
think any deployment of it should be done with a healthy amount of
distaste for either such that the bare minimum is deployed and under
carefully laid rails as to avoid letting it all get out of hand. These
are easy to build rube goldberg machines out of, but a conservative
deployment can still gain some value from it.

> also, it might help how we think about it if we framed it in terms of
> the technical attributes we want, scale, resilience, performance, ... as
> opposed to moving to the cloud. and maybe i see it as more 'extending'
> rather than 'moving'. visions of slimy pseudopods :)

All engineering metaphors are best explained in grotesque terms :)