From kurtis at kurtis.pp.se Tue Nov 4 15:45:37 2014 From: kurtis at kurtis.pp.se (Lindqvist Kurt Erik) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:45:37 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] NCC Services WG Chair re-election process In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <922AAE06-BA90-4F0B-BFFF-CDCD29DFEF57@kurtis.pp.se> > On 28 okt 2014, at 13:51, Roger J?rgensen wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Bijal Sanghani wrote: > >> During the meeting, the working group itself will by consensus establish the new or re-elected working group Chair. If for what ever reason consensus can not be reached or there are no new volunteers the existing Chair will continue their working group duties. > > > Again, as pointed out elsewhere, what about remote participants and > others following the mailing list? > > Not to mention some of the other downside of only doing it at a > meeting like peer-pressure, we could just as well introduce voting > there?:-) Following the feedback on the first proposal, Bijal and I have taken the process proposed in the DB WG and adopted it slightly. We therefor would like to have the following proposal updated and we will present this tomorrow. Under this the NCC-Service WG would select chairs according to the following principles o WG Chair term is two years o One chair will stand down every year o Maximum number of chairs is 3 o Call for interested parties is made on WG mailing list at yearly intervals o Interested parties have 2 weeks to make their interest known on the mailing list o NCC Services chair not up for election, issues a call for discussion. WG members express approval or otherwise of the presented candidates o After two weeks the chair(s) declare consensus as they would do for a policy proposal o Appeal possible as per normal process Let's discuss this tomorrow and also here on the list. Looking forward to the discussion! Regards, Kurtis & Bijal From lists-ripe at c4inet.net Wed Nov 5 17:20:30 2014 From: lists-ripe at c4inet.net (Sascha Luck) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:20:30 +0000 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] EU Data Protection In-Reply-To: <77093.1415185395@server1.tristatelogic.com> References: <20141105101221.GC58573@cilantro.c4inet.net> <77093.1415185395@server1.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <20141105162030.GA58817@cilantro.c4inet.net> On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 03:03:15AM -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette +wrote: >> I personally think that publishing "person" objects does +indeed break the >> law, NCC Legal clearly disagrees. > > It would seem so, and may God bless them for that. Actually, this is something I'd like to hear the "official" answer to, so let's ask the NCC: Having looked at some resources registered in the ripedb to natural persons and having found that the organisation: objects contain information such as full names, addresses and phone numbers, Assuming that this information is *required* to be there in order to be assigned independent resources, how does the uncontrolled publishing of that data possibly comply with the EU Data Protection Directive and imminent General Data Protection Regulation, especially considering the entirely uncontrolled transfer of such data to non-EU countries (whois lookups!)? IANAL, but to me it looks like a breach of said regulations. rgds, Sascha Luck From jim at rfc1035.com Wed Nov 5 17:48:03 2014 From: jim at rfc1035.com (Jim Reid) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:48:03 +0000 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] EU Data Protection In-Reply-To: <20141105162030.GA58817@cilantro.c4inet.net> References: <20141105101221.GC58573@cilantro.c4inet.net> <77093.1415185395@server1.tristatelogic.com> <20141105162030.GA58817@cilantro.c4inet.net> Message-ID: <29220C49-0DE9-4778-964B-3E1C9C218774@rfc1035.com> On 5 Nov 2014, at 16:20, Sascha Luck wrote: > how does the uncontrolled publishing of that data possibly comply > with the EU Data Protection Directive and imminent General Data Protection Regulation, > > especially considering the entirely uncontrolled transfer of such > data to non-EU countries (whois lookups!)? > > IANAL, but to me it looks like a breach of said regulations. Sacha, what matters here is how Dutch law enacts the EU directive and regulation and how the Dutch Data Protection Authority enforces that law(s). I would presume/expect the NCC's legal staff have already checked this or got expert advice. The NCC is already publishing Personal Data -- eg names and addresses for Contact Objects -- without violating Dutch/EU Data Protection and/or Privacy legislation. So I would assume that publishing Person Objects will be equally acceptable. My understanding is the issues around export of Personal Data apply to cases where the data are processed/controlled in a country that does not have a Data Protection regime or Safe Harbour provisions equivalent to the EU Directives and Regulations. Publishing whois data probably does not fall into that. IANAL either. Though I have dealt with whois issues, ICANN, Data Protection and far too many lawyers in a previous life. The scars have nearly healed. From training at ripe.net Mon Nov 10 08:14:30 2014 From: training at ripe.net (Training Services) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:14:30 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] [training] RIPE NCC Training Courses January-March 2015 Message-ID: <546065D6.3010606@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, Our training team travels the RIPE NCC service region to deliver training courses to our members without any additional cost. Over the next few months, we'll be in Milan, Madrid, Munich, Podgorica, Prague, Moscow, Riga, Ramallah, Edinburgh, Copenhagen, Amsterdam. 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Rumy Spratley-Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC Follow us on Twitter for the fastest and latest RIPE NCC Training news! @TrainingRIPENCC From mschmidt at ripe.net Tue Nov 18 15:47:24 2014 From: mschmidt at ripe.net (Marco Schmidt) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:47:24 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) Message-ID: Dear colleagues, The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to . We request your feedback, even if you have provided it during the initial Discussion Phase, so that the Working Group Chairs can determine whether there is rough consensus. Regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC From Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at Wed Nov 19 09:17:20 2014 From: Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:17:20 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <546C5210.9030809@CC.UniVie.ac.at> Full support, Wilfried Marco Schmidt wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > > The draft document for the proposal described in 2014-06, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource > Holders" has now been published, along with an impact analysis > conducted by the RIPE NCC. > > > You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at: > > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > And the draft document at: > > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06/draft > > > We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments > to before 12 November 2014. > > > Regards, > > Marco Schmidt > Policy Development Officer > RIPE NCC > > From bijal at euro-ix.net Thu Nov 27 14:18:32 2014 From: bijal at euro-ix.net (Bijal Sanghani) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:18:32 +0000 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, A gentle reminder that the review period for Policy Proposal 2014-06, "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders", has been extended to 17 December 2014. Even if you have showed support before can you please let us know again either way, so we can see whether there is rough consensus to go ahead or not. Thanks, Bijal On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Marco Schmidt wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource > Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. > > You can find the full proposal at: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments > to . > > We request your feedback, even if you have provided it during > the initial Discussion Phase, so that the Working Group Chairs > can determine whether there is rough consensus. > > Regards, > > Marco Schmidt > Policy Development Officer > RIPE NCC > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stolpe at resilans.se Thu Nov 27 14:36:47 2014 From: stolpe at resilans.se (Daniel Stolpe) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:36:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please go ahead! On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, Bijal Sanghani wrote: > Dear All, > A gentle reminder that the review period for?Policy Proposal 2014-06,?"Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource?Holders", has been extended to?17 > December 2014. > > Even if you have showed support before can you please let us know again either way, so we can see whether there is rough consensus to go ahead or not. > > Thanks, > > Bijal? > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Marco Schmidt wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource > Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. > > You can find the full proposal at: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments > to . > > We request your feedback, even if you have provided it during > the initial Discussion Phase, so that the Working Group Chairs > can determine whether there is rough consensus. > > Regards, > > Marco Schmidt > Policy Development Officer > RIPE NCC Best Regards, Daniel Stolpe _________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel Stolpe Tel: 08 - 688 11 81 stolpe at resilans.se Resilans AB Fax: 08 - 55 00 21 63 http://www.resilans.se/ Box 45 094 556741-1193 104 30 Stockholm From gert at space.net Thu Nov 27 15:45:26 2014 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 15:45:26 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20141127144526.GA28745@Space.Net> Hi, On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 03:47:24PM +0100, Marco Schmidt wrote: > The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource > Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. Sorry for not speaking up. Support. Bring this in line with all other resources the NCC is keeping track of. Gert Doering -- RIPE DB user -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Support! -Tim From Piotr.Strzyzewski at polsl.pl Thu Nov 27 17:46:17 2014 From: Piotr.Strzyzewski at polsl.pl (Piotr Strzyzewski) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:46:17 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] [policy-announce] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20141127164617.GA17193@hydra.ck.polsl.pl> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 03:47:24PM +0100, Marco Schmidt wrote: > The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource > Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. > > You can find the full proposal at: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments > to . > > We request your feedback, even if you have provided it during > the initial Discussion Phase, so that the Working Group Chairs > can determine whether there is rough consensus. I support this proposal. Piotr -- gucio -> Piotr Strzy?ewski E-mail: Piotr.Strzyzewski at polsl.pl From sander at steffann.nl Fri Nov 28 07:25:37 2014 From: sander at steffann.nl (Sander Steffann) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:25:37 +0400 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: <20141127144526.GA28745@Space.Net> References: <20141127144526.GA28745@Space.Net> Message-ID: Op 27 nov. 2014, om 18:45 heeft Gert Doering het volgende geschreven: > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 03:47:24PM +0100, Marco Schmidt wrote: >> The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, >> "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource >> Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. > > Sorry for not speaking up. Support. Bring this in line with all other > resources the NCC is keeping track of. +1 on this argument Support Sander From michael.perzi at univie.ac.at Fri Nov 28 07:32:28 2014 From: michael.perzi at univie.ac.at (Michael Perzi) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 07:32:28 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: <20141127144526.GA28745@Space.Net> References: <20141127144526.GA28745@Space.Net> Message-ID: <77C39D5B-72DE-4D29-A5F6-F2604D1D1DC9@univie.ac.at> On 27.11.2014, at 15:45, Gert Doering wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 03:47:24PM +0100, Marco Schmidt wrote: >> The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, >> "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource >> Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. > > Sorry for not speaking up. Support. Bring this in line with all other > resources the NCC is keeping track of. Full Support! Michael -- DI (FH) Michael Perzi UniVie / ACOnet / VIX michael.perzi at univie.ac.at // MP4729-RIPE Tel: +43 1 4277 - 14083 // Fax: - 14338 From richih.mailinglist at gmail.com Fri Nov 28 08:31:10 2014 From: richih.mailinglist at gmail.com (Richard Hartmann) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:31:10 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Strong support. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From modonovan at btireland.net Fri Nov 28 12:17:25 2014 From: modonovan at btireland.net (Mick O'Donovan) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 11:17:25 +0000 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] 2014-06 Review Period extended until 17 December (Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource Holders) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <547859C5.9080701@btireland.net> Full support from me folks! Mick On 18/11/2014 14:47, Marco Schmidt wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > The Review Period for the RIPE Policy Proposal 2014-06, > "Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Legacy Internet Resource > Holders", has been extended until 17 December 2014. > > You can find the full proposal at: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2014-06 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments > to . > > We request your feedback, even if you have provided it during > the initial Discussion Phase, so that the Working Group Chairs > can determine whether there is rough consensus. > > Regards, > > Marco Schmidt > Policy Development Officer > RIPE NCC >