[ncc-services-wg] NCC Services WG Draft Agenda - RIPE 66

	Hi Randy!

On 30 apr 2013, at 19:31, Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:

> hi bijal,
> 
>> F. Policy Update:
>> 	2012-07 - RIPE NCC Services to Legacy Internet Resource Holders
>> 	2012-08 - Publication of Sponsoring LIR for Independent Number Resources
>> - Emilio Madaio, RIPE NCC (20 minutes)
> 
> is there not a services to PI holders proposal?
> is there not a rpki to non-members proposal?

Emilio has just returned from vacation and us Europeans are mostly of on April 30th and May 1 so I am waiting for him to catch-up in case proposals have been submitted while he was away. Otherwise I have to admit that I am not clear which proposals you are asking about. 

There was the NCC board decision on RPKI certification to PI holders, but that is not a policy proposal per say, and noone has asked for slot time to discuss this (although I agree that would be good). 

> and are the collection of proposals not significant enough to be give
> more discussion time?


Just to explain a bit of rational behind the agenda to you and others. We have the allocated slot on the agenda and I believe it's to late to shuffle around. In hind sight perhaps we should have expected this and asked for more time. The RIPE NCC presentations used to be given in both the AGM and NCC-Services. It was decided by the WG Chairs (all of us, and if I remember correctly the NCC board as well) that it was redundant and time consuming and as long as the NCC-Services WG is held before the AGM, we will only give the updates ones and in the NCC-Services WG. Hence the time allocated to them. Now, this was before we started having policy proposal in NCC-Services and agenda time allocations (not to say assignments ;-) didn't have to take this into account. However, building on what Emilio tells us from the APWG experience, the updates of ongoing policies normally don't take that long or have that much discussion. We might be wrong of course, but we have to guess at something. We have shortened time allocated to the NCC presentations and I'd be happy to go back and look over that if the WG think we need more discussion time for these proposals. But me and Bijal can't take them of the agenda and I think we have to (at least for now) also respect there is enough time to give those presentations before the AGM. 

Best regards,

- kurtis -