[ncc-services-wg] Update - RIPE Database Proxy Service Issues

Sander, all,

> I fully understand the
> need for the RIPE Database Proxy Service Agreement, but not for
> forcing them to become members. The members voted for the "one LIR,
> one fee" charging scheme, but I don't understand that something that
> was never even related to being a member now suddenly becomes a
> member-only service. Why was the choice made to make it a member-only
> service *and* require a RIPE Database Proxy Service Agreement as
> well? Why not just the latter?

The thought was to have all as simple as possible, "one LIR, one fee,
one contract."
Clearly, with 20/20 hindsight, that was "te kort door de bocht," a step
too far, too quickly.

> I checked
> the Executive Board meeting minutes
> (http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/executive-board/minutes) but I
> can't find anything after August 2nd, which was before the last AGM.

You're right. Now they are online; as you pointed out, they should have
been already.

> I hope to see those minutes soon, because I think openness about this
> whole issue is important!

Absolutely agree. We want them online (and occasionally succeeded)
within two weeks of the meeting. I'm taking action to ensure it happens
in every case now.

> PS: I'm focussing on the change to the Activity Plan here, and I
> think this is being solved now in the correct way. I still think the
> communication around this was appalling. You *don't* send people a in
> notice the week before Christmas to tell them that they have to sign
> a RIPE Database Proxy Service Agreement (and in most cases have to
> become members, which is impossible on such short notice) before the
> end of the year. You just don't...

Cannot help but agree again. It shouldn't have happened this way. I'm
building in extra precautions that it doesn't again. Apologies to those
on the receiving end.

cheers, Axel