From shahin at admins.ir Mon Dec 10 09:58:34 2012 From: shahin at admins.ir (Shahin Gharghi) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 12:28:34 +0330 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Problem in payment of invoices Message-ID: Dear madam/sir We are a LIR in Iran. So we have to pay our invoices frequently. But the problem is we are banned from SWIFT and every money transfer company or bank. So there is no legal way to pay our invoices. Even we don't have any credit card or Paypal too. We must resort to third parties to make payments. This does not work well. Why is the Paypal system blocked for us? This is not fair. Is there any way for us? Thank you. -- Best Regards Reza Madadi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jochem at ripe.net Mon Dec 10 15:20:07 2012 From: jochem at ripe.net (Jochem de Ruig) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:20:07 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Problem in payment of invoices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1651E740-F214-44AC-8387-015CEE40F0F6@ripe.net> Dear Reza, The RIPE NCC serves a region of 76 countries all with unique issues and regulations. Over the years we aimed to facilitate payments across the region by offering a wide range of payment possibilities and supporting documentation. We understand your frustration with this situation, however we have no influence over the policies or service guidelines of relevant financial institutions. If you would like to discuss this in more detail please feel free to contact me directly. Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig On Dec 10, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Shahin Gharghi wrote: > Dear madam/sir > > We are a LIR in Iran. So we have to pay our invoices frequently. > But the problem is we are banned from SWIFT and every money transfer company or bank. > So there is no legal way to pay our invoices. Even we don't have any credit card or Paypal too. > We must resort to third parties to make payments. This does not work well. > Why is the Paypal system blocked for us? > This is not fair. > Is there any way for us? > Thank you. > > -- > Best Regards > Reza Madadi > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1735 bytes Desc: not available URL: From president at ukraine.su Mon Dec 10 17:35:50 2012 From: president at ukraine.su (Max Tulyev) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:35:50 +0200 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Problem in payment of invoices In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50C60F66.8090907@ukraine.su> Dear All, I just got answer from our bank. Payments in Russian Roubles are not going through SWIFT system. As I know, a lot of European (and not only European) banks can open and use accounts in Roubles. So, if RIPE NCC open a Rouble account, it will solve this problem, as well as makes very happy the largest part of RIPE NCC members, i.e. LIRs from Russia ;) 10.12.12 10:58, Shahin Gharghi ???????(??): > Dear madam/sir > > We are a LIR in Iran. So we have to pay our invoices frequently. > But the problem is we are banned from SWIFT and every money transfer > company or bank. > So there is no legal way to pay our invoices. Even we don't have any > credit card or Paypal too. > We must resort to third parties to make payments. This does not work well. > Why is the Paypal system blocked for us? > This is not fair. > Is there any way for us? > Thank you. > > -- > Best Regards > Reza Madadi > From sergey at devnull.ru Mon Dec 10 17:20:56 2012 From: sergey at devnull.ru (Sergey Myasoedov) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:20:56 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Problem in payment of invoices In-Reply-To: <50C60F66.8090907@ukraine.su> References: <50C60F66.8090907@ukraine.su> Message-ID: <1396150835.20121210172056@devnull.ru> Plz don't forget that LIRs should open a rouble account as well. So what's your estimate - how many Iranian banks allow to make a rouble payments? Metal gold is a better way :) Monday, December 10, 2012, 5:35:50 PM, you wrote: MT> So, if RIPE NCC open a Rouble account, it will solve this problem, as MT> well as makes very happy the largest part of RIPE NCC members, i.e. LIRs MT> from Russia ;) -- Sergey From andrea at ripe.net Fri Dec 21 11:45:22 2012 From: andrea at ripe.net (Andrea Cima) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:45:22 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] New RIPE NCC PGP Key Message-ID: <50D43DC2.2050404@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, On Monday, 7 January 2013 we will start using our 2013 key to sign e-mails from our ticketing system. The new key has been signed by the old key as described in the key-management policy on our web site: https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/contact/pgp-authentication The old key remains valid until Thursday, 31 January 2013. If you have any questions about this, please contact . Kind Regards, Andrea Cima RIPE NCC From mir at ripe.net Fri Dec 21 12:33:28 2012 From: mir at ripe.net (Mirjam Kuehne) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:33:28 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] New on RIPE Labs: Conclusions Drawn from Reverse DNS Event Message-ID: <50D44908.2090903@ripe.net> [apologies for duplicates] Dear colleagues, On Wednesday 13 June 2012, an unknown error caused the removal of several zone files from the configuration of our reverse DNS provisioning system. Following up from the initial report published on RIPE Labs, we further analysed what caused the incident and implemented a number of procedures to decrease the likelihood of this happening in the future. Please see the report on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/dfk/conclusions-drawn-from-reverse-dns-event Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC From training at ripe.net Fri Dec 21 15:41:09 2012 From: training at ripe.net (Training Mailbox) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:41:09 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] RIPE NCC Webinars - new dates In-Reply-To: <50A9F079.3010805@ripe.net> References: <50A9F079.3010805@ripe.net> Message-ID: <50D47505.8080608@ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce the launch of new dates for our Webinars for LIRs. The RIPE NCC Webinars are live, one hour online training courses that allow participants to interact with our trainers without leaving their desks. We focus on the topics and issues most important for LIRs. Register now at https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/training/e-learning/webinars Participation is limited to 20 people, so don't hesitate if you want to take part! If you have questions, please email. We look forward to seeing you online. Kind regards, RIPE NCC Training Services From nick at netability.ie Mon Dec 31 20:22:43 2012 From: nick at netability.ie (Nick Hilliard) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:22:43 +0000 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Fwd: GeekTools Whois Proxy and RIPE/RIPE-NCC In-Reply-To: <71BEAB45-2AC4-4573-BF20-35B6BAB1B119@centergate.com> References: <71BEAB45-2AC4-4573-BF20-35B6BAB1B119@centergate.com> Message-ID: <50E1E603.5070707@netability.ie> This seems odd. I can't seem to find any mention of charging for bulk whois access in the RIPE NCC AGM or the PDP. Am I missing something here? Nick -------- Original Message -------- Subject: GeekTools Whois Proxy and RIPE/RIPE-NCC Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:41:54 -0500 From: Rodney Joffe To: nanog at nanog.org NANOG and ARIN Friends, 14 Years ago, at the suggestion of Jon Postel and some of the early participants in NANOG, we developed the GeekTools Whois proxy to make it easier for *us* - network security and abuse techs - to deal with the expanding number of gtlds and registrars and the varied whois servers that were appearing. The service had both a CLI and web interface. The service also led directly to the creation of whois-servers.net, which now seems to be part of a number of *nix distributions. The service has been up for 14 years, and over that time we have fulfilled the requirements of all of the whois server operators in regards to minimizing and stopping abuse of the GT whois proxy by domain scrapers, spammers, etc, while enabling the security folks to do their jobs. In some cases we have even written code to pass the ip address of the requestor to the whois server registry operator when they wanted to manage quota's directly. We think we have a really good relationship with all of the whois server operators, and I think we provide a useful service to the community, and is widely used. And in 14 years we have never been tarred as an enabler of abuse of "the whois" system. There has obviously never been any kind of charge or fee for using the proxy, or any of the other tools on GeekTools. In about 2002 we started placing a banner ad on the web interface page to offset some of the costs for the bandwidth that the proxy consumes. An average of about $70 a month for over the last 10 years. Actual bandwidth costs are higher than that of course, but it was a thought in 2002 that we had frankly forgotten about until recently. Two weeks ago RIPE-NCC, who provide the whois data for IP addresses in the RIPE region, informed us that based on decisions by their members, as of January 1st 2013, tomorrow, they would no longer provide whois proxy query response services to GeekTools unless we ponied up $1,800 a year for RIPE membership. I don't work very well above layer 7. It is what it is. So I wanted to let you know that as of midnight tonight, apparently, you won't be able to use GeekTools for RIPE related queries. If you have automated scripts, and you are one of the users who has expanded access to GeekTools, you'll need to find an alternative for RIPE queries *today*. My guess is that you will be able to query RIPE directly, once you have worked out that the address space is within RIPE's assignments. I think its wrong to have to pay for whois data that is part of a community resource . So I won't do it.