[ncc-services-wg] Policy proposal for services to legacy Internet resource holders
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Hank Nussbacher
hank at efes.iucc.ac.il
Tue Aug 28 18:42:51 CEST 2012
At 12:26 27/08/2012 +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: >On 26/08/2012 00:09, Rogier Spoor wrote: > > On 8/26/12 1:02 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > >> On 25 Aug 2012, at 19:31, Hank Nussbacher <hank at efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote: > >>> Based on mnt-by, the # of ERX address blocks managed by the top 11 > NRENs in Europe: > >> > >> mnt-by does not convey registration rights. Or did I miss a whopper of > a change in policy recently? > > > > For ERX ranges policies are not applicable. > > > > MNT-BY is unfortunately the best indicator that's available. > >Rogier, > >I suspect (strongly) that the individual academic institutions would feel >that the address space is registered to them, not to the nrens. > >Nick DDN.MIL NIC would tend to disagree with your statement (similar emails were sent back in the "old" days to most NRENs since we were the Internet pioneers): >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 91 14:00:26 PDT >From: HOSTMASTER at NIC.DDN.MIL >Subject: Re: Internet network number template >Sender: SHARON at NIC.DDN.MIL >To: HANK%VM.TAU.AC.IL at TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL >cc: sharon at NIC.DDN.MIL, hostmaster at NIC.DDN.MIL >Reply-To: HOSTMASTER at NIC.DDN.MIL >In-Reply-To: Message from "Hank Nussbacher > <HANK%VM.TAU.AC.IL at TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL>" of Wed, 24 Jul 91 15:44:58 PDT >Message-ID: <12704514128.56.SHARON at NIC.DDN.MIL> > >Hank, > >In view of your role as the network coordinator for the universities >and governmental departments in Israel, we here at the Network >Information Center feel it would be appropriate if you could serve as >the IP number delegating authority for the country of Israel. > >Basically this means that any applicaton we recieve from Israel will >be forwarded to you for IP number assignment from your allotment of >class C and B blocks. > >The delegating authority receives the applications, assigns a number >or numbers and then sends us the information so that we can update our >database (this is where the form came in that I sent to you in our >last conversation). > >We have several others like yourself who have received large blocks of >numbers and serve as delegating authorities for their respective >countries. Some do this on and "official" basis and some on an >"unofficial" basis. The difference between the two is that in the >"unofficial" situations the delegators wish to use the numbers for >specific areas of concern (eg only centers of research) and not for >any company or organization that desires a network number and/or >network connection. > >At the present time we have "official" delegating authorities for the >countries of Canada, Mexico, Italy, and the Netherlands. We have >"unofficial" delegating authorities for the countries of France, >Germany, and Sweden. > >If you would like to contact any of the authorities listed above for >more details, let me know and I will forward their names and addresses >to you. > >For the time being since you did mention that these numbers are to be >used for university and for various Ministry offices, may we forward any >requests from Israel that we receive back to you for processing? > >I have taken the liberty of naming the blocks of numbers ISRAELB-BLOCK >and ISRAELC-BLOCK (totally unimaginative I know but we had to use >something :-)) If you could think of some other identifier that would >best fit the network system please let me know and I'll change the >name immediately. > >ISRAELB-BLOCK 147.233 - 147.237 5 B's > >ISRAELC-BLOCK 192.114.1 - 192.114.254 > 192.115.1 - 192.115.254 > 192.116.1 - 192.116.254 > 192.117.1 - 192.117.254 > 192.118.1 - 192.118.254 5 Blocks of C's > > >Thank you for your cooperation. > >Regards >Sharon >An/Hostmaster
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