[ncc-services-wg] New on RIPE Labs: A RIPE Atlas Probe for every RIPE NCC Member
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Hank Nussbacher
hank at efes.iucc.ac.il
Thu Nov 3 17:47:30 CET 2011
At 15:31 03/11/2011 +0100, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: >Henk, > >good to hear from you again. > >RIPE Atlas is not intended for intra-AS measurements. Operators >generally have their networks very well instrumented. RIPE Atlas is about >situational awareness about the inter-AS mesh. Of course we want to >have a number of probes inside big ASes, but most stub ASes are nicely >covered with one or two. We would not provide other than incidental >intra-AS measuremenets from the proposed funding unless the operator >concerned provides additional funding and the results will be both >available and useful for the community. > >So I am indeed proposing to distribute the probes and benefits as >equally among the membership as possible. And the cost of 300 EUR for >each member that you quote is for the deployment and two years of >operations, so it comes down to EUR150/member/year for the first >two years. I believe only 1% of the RIPE membership would make weekly use of such probes - you might believe I am way off and feel 10% of the RIPE membership would make use of such probes. Well, there is a simple way to determine whether the membership wants to spend a few million Euro on this - ask them via a poll. If a majority of those responding feel it is important - then you have your mandate. If a majority think otherwise, you don't have a mandate to spend all that money. It is called democracy. -Hank >About the usefulness of RIPE Atlas let me say just this much: >At least one active probe in the network of each member would >make for an unprecedented level of comprehensive active measurmenets. >Products from these measurements are useful for detecting anomalies, >monitoring trends and for analysing faults. > >Daniel
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