From BSanghani at flagtelecom.com Mon May 3 14:53:04 2004 From: BSanghani at flagtelecom.com (Sanghani, Bijal) Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 13:53:04 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] RE: RIPE 48 NCC-Services WG Agenda Message-ID: <147955311569D511AD0D00508B667530014C8211@lon-emailcl.flagtelecom.com> Hi All, Apologies for the late update, the NRO update has now moved to the Opening Plenary. Please see proposed agenda below - Day 1: Tuesday, 4 May 2004, 14:00 - 15:30 Day 2: Thursday, 6 May 2004, 11:00 - 12:30 Room: Grand Ballroom Agenda: (Tuesday) A. Administrative Matters (5 min) - Welcome ?????- Select a scribe ?????- Distribute participants list ?????- Finalise agenda ?????- Approve minutes from RIPE 47: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/ncc-services/r47-minutes.html B. Axel - RIPE NCC Update (10-15 min) / 2005 Activity Plan (10-15 min) C. RIPE NCC - LIR Portal Update (10-15 min) (Thursday) Distribute participants list E. Kurtis - WG input for the 2005 Activity Plan (10-15 min) F. 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Administrative Matters (5 min) - Welcome ?????- Select a scribe ?????- Distribute participants list ?????- Finalise agenda ?????- Approve minutes from RIPE 47: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/ncc-services/r47-minutes.html B. Axel - RIPE NCC Update (10-15 min) / 2005 Activity Plan (10-15 min) C. RIPE NCC - LIR Portal Update (10-15 min) (Thursday) Distribute participants list E. Kurtis - WG input for the 2005 Activity Plan (10-15 min) F. Filiz Yilmaz - Authentication for Hostmaster Robot (10-15 min) G. Daniel Karrenberg - De-Bogonising New Address Blocks (10-15 min) Y. Open Microphone Z. AOB regards, Bijal ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. 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However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com From contact at ripe.net Wed May 19 17:27:46 2004 From: contact at ripe.net (Membership Liaison Officer) Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:27:46 +0200 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] Reminder - RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Moscow 16-18 June 2004 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040519172223.04fcc690@mailhost.ripe.net> [Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleague, We would like to remind you that the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Moscow will be held 16 - 18 June 2004 at the Hotel Metropol, Moscow, Russia. Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible to cover their own travel and accommodation costs. REGISTRATION To register, please see: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/moscow-reg Please note that registration closes on 7 June 2004. AGENDA The Regional Meeting draft agenda has been updated and can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/moscow-2004/agenda.html MORE INFORMATION More information about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Moscow is available from: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/regional-meetings/moscow-2004/ Any further questions can be sent directly to: . Regards, Nathalie Dougall Membership Liaison Officer RIPE NCC http://www.ripe.net From ncc at ripe.net Thu May 27 16:19:12 2004 From: ncc at ripe.net (Nick Hyrka) Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:19:12 +0200 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] RIPE 48 Meeting Report Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040527161726.04469e18@mailhost.ripe.net> [Apologies for any duplicate mailings.] RIPE 48 Meeting Report Dear Colleagues, The RIPE 48 Meeting was held from 3 - 7 May 2004 at the Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. There were a total of 267 attendees comprised of the RIPE NCC membership, the RIPE community and government representatives. Attendees also included representatives from APNIC, ARIN, AfriNIC, LACNIC and ICANN. HIGHLIGHTS Highlights of RIPE 48 included an update on the Number Resource Organization from Axel Pawlik, Managing Director, RIPE NCC; an open discussion on the proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between the Number Resource Organization and ICANN; the community consensus to create an ENUM Working Group. J. Scott Marcus, Transatlantic Fellow, The German Marshall Fund of the United States, gave a presentation on the deployment challenges involved with evolving the core of the Internet. This presentation can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/ripe48-plenary-marcus.pdf The European Operators Forum (EOF) featured presentations on lawful interception of IP traffic, managing a DoS attack, stable BGP routing, strategies for IP traffic engineering, analysing the Internet Routing Registries, IP Address Space and AS Number hijacking and applications of Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD). EOF presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#eof The RIPE NCC, FLAG Telecom, Amsterdam Internet Exchange and Interoute are thanked for the support they provided to the meeting. Global Voice Networks are thanked for the provision of the meeting Internet connectivity. SUMMARY ADDRESS POLICY WORKING GROUP - It was agreed that the issue of worldwide "shopping" for address space needs to be carefully considered before adopting different IPv4 additional allocation procedures (i.e. HD Ratio) in each region. - There were calls for the clarification and review of the initial allocation criteria for IPv6 allocations. The RIPE NCC will propose a rewrite of the IPv6 policy after the issue has been discussed in more detail on the mailing list. Address Policy Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#ap DATABASE WORKING GROUP - It was agreed that the 'country:' attribute should be either removed or be optional. - It was decided that the default behaviour of the RIPE Database will be changed to return the Incident Response Team (IRT) object if available, in order to make it easier for users to find relevant security contact information. Database Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#db TEST TRAFFIC MEASUREMENT (TTM) WORKING GROUP - Three presentations were given by Test Box users that offered useful tutorial information for all Test Box owners. - The Working Group Chair encouraged the RIPE NCC to investigate moving measurements into the O/S kernel and/or to hardware. - It was noted that the RIPE NCC has lowered the annual TTM service fee to 1000 euro/year for the first box, 500 euro/year for the second to ninth boxes and that a large company has offered to sponsor hardware for non-profit, research institutes. Test Traffic Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#tt ANTI-SPAM WORKING GROUP - The community was asked to look at the Anti-Spam Working Group charter and to suggest how it should be changed. - Fearghas McKay reported on the sender-pays stream and specifically on the 'camram' proposal which uses a well-documented system for generating cryptographic signatures ('hashcash'). - There was a proposal to establish a top level domain 'mail.' to be used as a type of DNS white-listing service. IPv6 WORKING GROUP - It was agreed that the Working Group Chair will seek consensus from the Working Group on whether the Minimum Technical IPv6 Peering Requirements (MIPP) document should become a RIPE document. - The community was asked to provide feedback on larger than default IPv6 allocations. - Pim van Pelt asked for members of the community who would like to run public 6to4 relays. IPv6 Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#ipv6 EIX WORKING GROUP - Kurtis Lindqvist presented his view from the IXP Customer View workshop. - Bijal Sanghani gave a presentation on the expectation an ISP has for an IXP. - European IXPs gave an update about the latest developments, including a presentation on the shared experience of engineers when they migrated their customers from one switch to another. EIX Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#eix DNS WORKING GROUP - It was agreed that the RIPE NCC will review the zone checks done by the reverse delegation robot. - DNS MODA was proposed by Jim Reid as a not-for-profit body to work on DNS protocol issues. - It was noted that the expansion of IPv6 makes the streamlining of IPv6 direct and reverse DNS even more necessary. DNS Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#dns ROUTING WORKING GROUP - It was agreed that the RIPE NCC should publish an IRR Toolset maintenance schedule. - There was a presentation on some of the technical issues of high-speed global roaming (flying an 802.11b wireless hot-spot at around 900 km/hr at altitudes around 10km). - There was a presentation on BGPlay, a tool that visualises Internet routing activity. Routing Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#routing RIPE NCC SERVICES WORKING GROUP - The RIPE NCC was asked to make a more detailed presentation on PGP encryption. - It was agreed that the RIPE NCC should start implementing the key-signing proposal. RIPE NCC Services Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#ncc-services TECHNICAL SECURITY WORKING GROUP - There was a presentation on security aware resolvers and discussion on the requirements for them. - There was discussion on 'server-side' protocol bits and the feeling that they are solid and ready for deployment; it was noted that validator/application communication and key-management issues need work. Technical Security Working Group presentations can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/presentations/index.html#techsec TUTORIALS The RIPE NCC Training Team presented the RIPE NCC IP Request Tutorial. It explained address space assignment and allocation procedures in the RIPE NCC region: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/tutorials/ip-request/index.html RIPE 48 WEBCASTING AND ARCHIVES During RIPE 48, the RIPE NCC held trials in collecting feedback from participants watching the webcast. The mediums used for this were IRC and Jabber. Archives of presentations, webcasts and IRC/Jabber feedback from RIPE 48 are available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/sessions-archive.html HOSTMASTER CONSULTATION CENTRE (HCC) The RIPE NCC Hostmaster Consultation Centre was open at RIPE 48, allowing RIPE NCC Members to discuss issues relating to their business directly with RIPE NCC Hostmasters. RIPE 48 REFERENCE PAGE A complete list of RIPE 48 sessions, tutorials and presentations can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-48/index.html "MEET & GREET" The RIPE NCC's "Meet & Greet" was available for first-time RIPE Meeting attendees at RIPE 48. "Meet & Greet" introduces newcomers to the meetings, to key attendees from the RIPE community and to social events throughout the week. More information can be obtained by contacting: . RIPE 49 RIPE 49 will be held in Manchester, the United Kingdom, from 20 - 24 September 2004. Information on RIPE 49 will soon be made available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-49/ NEW LOCAL INTERNET REGISTRIES (LIRs) Please note: New LIRs are entitled to two (2) free tickets to attend a RIPE Meeting. The tickets cover the meeting fee only and do not apply to the RIPE dinner, travel or hotel accommodation. More information on the new LIR tickets can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/new-lir.html For more information, contact .