[ncc-services-wg] struct. differences in PI vs. PA request forms & use of role:

Hi Wilfried,

Thanks for your comments.

We include details on how role objects can be used and why they might 
be used in the course. We don't specifically ask people not to use role 
objects for "admin-c:" as we cannot know the internal structure of the 
organisation running a network. On the whole we try to let people know 
their options, so that they can make the decision that is appropriate 
to their circumstances when they register their objects in the 
database.

On Feb 27, 2004, at 9:49 pm, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:

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>   A) why is there a difference between PI and PA forms regarding DB
>      information?

The PA request form no longer includes a complete inetnum template. 
This is because the Hostmasters do not need to see the whole inetnum 
object to approve the assignment. Including the inetnum template in PA 
request form caused more problems than it solved.

The RIPE NCC registers the inetnum object in the database when PI 
assignments are made. For that reason we need to see the whole inetnum 
object. The supporting notes for the request form state:

"The "admin-c:" attribute contains the nic-hdl for the administrative 
contact person. This person should be administratively responsible  for 
the network. A role object nic-hdl can also be used in this attribute."

Contacts from different LIRs need different levels of support in 
requesting address space and registering assignments. That's why the 
new PA Request Wizard on the LIR Portal helps the requester put the 
inetnum object together. When the assignment is approved by the 
Hostmasters the inetnum is automatically inserted into the database.

>   B) is there still a recommendation or requirement to use a "real"
>      person: as the reference for an admin-c:?

I suspect that this needs to be decided by database users rather than 
the RIPE NCC. Times change and recommendations might need to change, 
too.

Regards,

-- 
leo vegoda
Registration Services Manager
RIPE NCC