From BSanghani at flagtelecom.com Thu Aug 5 17:52:17 2004 From: BSanghani at flagtelecom.com (Sanghani, Bijal) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 16:52:17 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] RIPE49 - Call for Presentations - NCC-Services WG Message-ID: <147955311569D511AD0D00508B66753001747A39@lon-emailcl.flagtelecom.com> Hi All, For the NCC Services WG at RIPE49 we'd like to see more participation from the members, as well as the general presentation provided by the RIPE NCC. So with that in mind we'd like to ask for you, the members and RIPE Community to come forward and suggest a presentation outlining your experience with the RIPE NCC and its services. This can include anything from experiences you have had with a recent merger or idea's/issues you've had with the LIR Portal that you would like to share. As this Working Group has been set-up explicitly for the RIPE NCC members and the RIPE Community to discuss the services of the RIPE NCC, your active participation is appreciated. Without active involvement of the membership and the RIPE Community it is difficult for the RIPE NCC to gauge our expectations with regards to the services it provides. We would like to encourage anyone that would like to make a presentation or raise a topic for discussion to please contact either Kurtis or myself and we'll arrange a spot in the agenda. Best regards, Bijal Sanghani FLAG Telecom ********************************************************************** This e-mail message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and contains information which is or may be confidential, non-public or legally privileged. Any dissemination or distribution of this message other than to its intended recipient is strictly prohibited. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose the contents to any other person. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by email to postmaster at flagtelecom.com immediately and delete the original message and all copies from all locations in your computer systems. This e-mail has been swept by Mailsweeper TM for viruses. However, FLAG Telecom cannot accept liability for any damage which you may sustain as a result of software viruses. ********************************************************************** This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - www.mailcontrol.com From peter.galbavy at knowtion.net Tue Aug 17 18:30:13 2004 From: peter.galbavy at knowtion.net (Peter Galbavy) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:30:13 +0100 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] OK, I'm lost... Message-ID: <005401c48477$79400570$21e0a8c0@petersdesktopho> RIPE-301 (specifically about closed registries) 3.8: "In cases where End Users of an LIR keep the address space assigned to them after the LIR closes, the LIR maintainer in the database objects representing these assignments needs to be removed and replaced by the RIPE NCC maintainer. The LIR should provide the RIPE NCC with a list of relevant database objects agreeing to the RIPE NCC overwriting the current LIR maintainer." OK, I missed this as "my" LIR was closed due to non-payment after my previous "issues". That not-withstanding, the actualy allocations to end-users remain, and should be maintainable, even if very slowly, somehow. RIPE-301 does not (in 4.0) imply that end-user assignments (and ASes) are automatically removed where an LIR is closed by RIPE - in fact it implies the opposite, but doesn't say it explicity. If we get to the situation where the object would have been correctly and timely changed to the NCC maintainer, it appears that the current robot behaviour would still be the same; This page implies that it is *impossible* to communicate with RIPE unless you are an LIR: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mem-services/registration/status.html There is a chasm here between RIPE-301 and hostmaster at ripe.net etc. Is there a (poublic) solution ? rgds, -- Peter From axel.pawlik at ripe.net Wed Aug 18 09:31:02 2004 From: axel.pawlik at ripe.net (Axel Pawlik) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:31:02 +0200 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] OK, I'm lost... In-Reply-To: <005401c48477$79400570$21e0a8c0@petersdesktopho> References: <005401c48477$79400570$21e0a8c0@petersdesktopho> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040818093021.03739eb0@localhost> Peter, if you need to communicate with us, as a non-member, then ncc at ripe.net works, as well as the telephone. regards, Axel From woeber at cc.univie.ac.at Wed Aug 18 16:35:09 2004 From: woeber at cc.univie.ac.at (Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:35:09 +0200 Subject: [ncc-services-wg] OK, I'm lost... Message-ID: <00A368C9.CA437678.14@cc.univie.ac.at> >Peter, if you need to communicate with us, as a non-member, >then ncc at ripe.net works, as well as the telephone. Last time when I communicated with ripe-dbm, I think I didn't have to specify my reg.id ;-) Wilfried ( https://cert.aco.net/ ) _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber at CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...there's no place like 127.0.0.1 (or ::1 ?)