[members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals

"I find that it is not fair. If RIPE is a organisation, which affects 
our freedom of our internet usage, than they should handle fair"

What is "fair" is fat too subjective, we should focus this discussion 
more on a workable solution that is agreeable for the majority of 
(voting) members.
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On 16.04.2024 4:07 PM, m.terzioglu at prebits.de wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> does it mean, that everything decided before, should be correct and 
> legitim? Either science is not so. They thought the world was flat and 
> so on…
>
> So you can not take everything as non changeable facts.. And here 
> there many things, that they are from stone age.
>
> And i am free not to accept the applicable and proposed charging schemes.
>
> I find that it is not fair. If RIPE is a organisation, which affects 
> our freedom of our internet usage, than they should handle fair
>
> Many people dont and can not contribute. Because of many aspecsts, 
> like language barriers of them etc. The desicions will be done often 
> from very small part of the community, often as i see in the last 
> years, for their own interests (i realize this is a generalization, 
> but generally)..
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> *Von:*members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *Im Auftrag 
> von *Michel Lanners
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. April 2024 13:22
> *An:* members-discuss at ripe.net
> *Betreff:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC 
> Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals
>
>     On 16 Apr 2024, at 13:04, Firma KOMPEX <gabi at kompex.pl> wrote:
>
>     Of course the people at RIPE made mistakes.
>
> May I remind you that address policy is decided in the working group 
> of the same name, by the RIPE Community and not the RIPE NCC? RIPE 
> Community is all of us, you included.
>
> RIPE NCC implements the policies the Community decides.
>
>     In the old days they issued /8, /12, /14, /16, /18, /20 without
>     any justification and demand for IP addresses.
>
> If you refer to the days before RIPE policies, then looking back from 
> today, yes some assignments were quite generous, because it wasn’t 
> envisioned that the Internet would become what it is today.
>
> But as long as I can remember (and I’m not the youngest anymore!), 
> policies were always there, and no, getting IP addresses was _not_ 
> free beer for all.
>
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